vaga Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Granted the models that the reviewers have played with are preproduction right? (So hopefully they fix some of the niggles like IBIS we have before it is fully released)The GH4 does DCI 4k in addition to UHD, right? What about the G7? According to B&H this does only UHD, which I find very odd.Also, why are there no slo-mo options at all? Looks like the RX10 ii will eat this Panasonic's lunch unless 1080p 120 is added in firmware. In the Camera Store TV video, a bit of rolling shutter is visible in the video sample from the GX8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 So hopefully they fix some of the niggles like IBIS we have before it is fully releasedWon't happen. The firmware is already final. Also, IBIS not working in video is not a 'niggle', more likely a choice. I'm sure technically it's possible, it works in live view while taking pictures after all... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted July 16, 2015 Administrators Share Posted July 16, 2015 True. The GX8 is a bit of a let down for us. Panasonic is really protecting the GH4. The GX8 is clearly aimed at still photographers. But still it beats the crap out of Canon/Nikon/Sony camera's in the same price range when it comes to video...But it doesn't beat a £470 Sony A6000 for stills and therein lies the problem, if it's clearly aimed at photographers.Anyway the £599 Samsung NX500 arguably performs better in 4K mode than the GX8. 2.2x crop on the Samsung, looks like a 2.5x crop on the GX8 from a noisier sensor with suspect colour. IronFilm and iamoui 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaga Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 ^Only benefit then: screen, viewfinder, and mic jack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted July 16, 2015 Administrators Share Posted July 16, 2015 Really we should be comparing the GX8 with the £1100+ stuff anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaga Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 I mean, for the price I think it's fair to compare ititwith the nx1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chris Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 4k samples from the LX100 and GH4 look better than the few clips I've seen from the GX8 on my 40" 4k monitor. Youtube could be killing it, but it lacks the detail and pop from good 4k footage. Will wait for more comprehensive tests. So far, meh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tosvus Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 I don't think anyone expects that this camera will take customers from Nikon/Sony/Canon in terms of it's stills quality. However, it is a much needed progression for people already using m43. It may possibly tempt some hybrid users from other formats, but it's not cheap so who knows. They did hobble its features quite a bit on the video side unfortunately.I will wait and see what GH5 brings, personally. I hope they include (real) video Ibis (and for 4K..) in that. It will be interesting to see if we are going to see a departure in sensor resolution though. I wonder if they dare go to say a 12MP sensor for GH5 to optimize video. That would leave me a bit in a sticky position though, as I like to do both, so I have to determine if a loss of stills resolution would be worth it. Julian, Fredrik Lyhne and Emanuel 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanveer Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 I am not sure how did this guy get his hands on a Pre-Launch Camera as well as upload pics. But, from the pics he has uploaded the GX7 seems to pack in noticeable improvement in detail (obviously due go more pixels), and in my presumption, about 1 stop more of dynamic range in the lower ISO pics. These are not RAW pics and I am not too sure, since they appear to be lower res pics, but if they have, then regardless of the added bulk, the 2.5mm mic jack, the lack of IBIS in video (especially 4k), Panasonic has been listening to users. Just not enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanveer Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 I forgot to post the url: http://photobyrichard.com/reviewbyrichard/panasonic-lumix-gx8-review/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lammy Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 That GX7 EVF hump and rectangular corner just looks so ugly in my opinion... I prefer the symmetry and sleek aethetic to the GX7.All I wanted was just a 4K update on the GX7, and maybe a 3.5mm jack and a tiltable uppy screen and maybe weatherproofing. This total re-design and 2.5 times price tag is bizarre! mercer and IronFilm 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaga Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 Richard's photos are pretty nice. In general, the lowlight performance for stills looks pretty good. I still hope Panny improves the final video specs. Likelihood is low, yes. But I, and I'm sure many people would jump on this camera if they gave it higher bitrates and 1080p slow mo.It seems like most people would buy the Sony RX10ii or Samsung NX1 instead considering the price/performance ratio.Only benefits I see with this right now over the other 2 are Tilting EVF, Fully articulating screen. sanveer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaga Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Are the video features on this exactly the same as those on the G7? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liork Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Looks like they are similar indeed, but crop factor in 4K is bigger on the GX8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liork Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 The GH4 does DCI 4k in addition to UHD, right? What about the G7? According to B&H this does only UHD, which I find very oddYou find it odd that a 700$ camera don't have DCI?... amateurs don't need it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaga Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Well, my phone does it... I don't see a reason not to on a $1200 camera when some of its closest competition does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liork Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Which phone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liork Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 And you were talking about the G7 which is 700$ body, not 1200$. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 I think Vaga was unsure about the G7, and wanted to do a comparison between the 3. vaga 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaga Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Sorry, the antecedent for "this" was pretty unclear. Mercer has my intention correct. mercer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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