Panasonic added an S1H to the body of a Leica Q and nobody cares

[Andrew Reid]

Denizens of the internet... I present to you the Panasonic Q

It is Netflix approved with 6K open gate.

Phase-detect AF and IBIS

Leica lenses

(And some nifty Noktons)

In-camera LUTs

And still nobody cares because it has a Lumix badge - not a Sony.

Yes, it is as small as a Leica Q. Yes, it is much better for video than a Leica Q. The Leica Q3 is 6300 euros. This set me back 1299 special offer in Olive Green.

The lens can be changed... On the Leica Q you are stuck to a fake Leica lens that needs heavy digital correction to look ok.

It has IBIS... the Q of course doesn't.

And in the end, they are both the smallest full frame cameras you can get along with a Sony RX1R II or Sigma Fp/L

So in conclusion, Panasonic are doomed. The social media response to this camera made it out to be some sort of silly toy.

It just goes to show how uncreative these zealots are.

Would it have been nice to have a built in EVF, the only feature aside from extra resolution you get for your 6300 euros on a Q3?

Of course.

Would it have been nice to be Leica grade in terms of materials, looks, and so on? Well it's not THAT far off really.

There has never been such a good image and wide range of features in a camera this small or cheap, end of story. Add a Sigma 35mm F2 or Voigtlander M 40mm F1.2 and enjoy!

[Andrew Reid]

The good old GF1 for size

[MrSMW]

Yup, silly internet and silly YouTubers.

Actually, to be fair, quite a few rate it, but the brand does not have the more mass market caché of the Sony brand, never mind Nikon or Canon and IMO, that is the biggest weakness of Panasonic Lumix, - inept marketing.

[PannySVHS]

I was a little bit upset about the second photo revealing the GF1 as I wanted to prove my camera eye, indentifying the GF1 on your first photo. Lovely to look at the white beauty though. So thanks for posting the second photo as well.:) @Andrew Reid

I will have to check now if there exists a white GX1 model. The 16 Mpix GX1 sensor is so much better than the 12Mpix imager in the GF1. I must say, the GF1 to me is the prettiest looking digital body. I would have loved a version with the GX1/G6 sensor and G6 video. GX1 comes close in regards of looks though still not as beautiful to look at as the GF1.

The S9 being a pocket S1H with PDAF, one could see it that way. A GX85 on roids it is not, since an EVF and mechanical shutter are missing.😊 Wonder how it behaves regarding overheating and battery life.

[j_one]

Within the context of this comparison, I just imagined the S1r sensor in S9 body (a la a7cr or FP-L), I'd buy a walk-around camera like that for sure

[KnightsFan]

Perfect for me if it had an EVF! I don't care how bright the screen is, it's going to be rough without an EVF in the desert at midday. I saw on the rumor sites that 7artisans is making an 18mm pancake. Sticking that on an S9 would make an excellent compact setup for my backpacking trips. Maybe their next one will have an EVF.

[Andrew Reid]

Missing the EVF, it would be such a lovely thing if it had one. There's an a7c for 999 euros behind the advent calendar in Foto Meyer... But not got the same charm, or has it??

[MrSMW]

28 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said:

There's an a7c for 999 euros behind the advent calendar in Foto Meyer... But not got the same charm, or has it??

Nah, that was from last years advent calendar.

[PannySVHS]

24 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said:

Missing the EVF, it would be such a lovely thing if it had one. There's an a7c for 999 euros behind the advent calendar in Foto Meyer... But not got the same charm, or has it??

Nope, not the same charme, maybe sporting worse ibis, battery life and heat management. Plus, the S9 is a beauty. But still, besides an evf I'd miss the mechanical shutter. No charme in photography without a mechanical shutter.

[eatstoomuchjam]

32 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said:

There's an a7c for 999 euros behind the advent calendar in Foto Meyer... But not got the same charm, or has it??

David Burnett certainly seems to love his - at least, when he isn't hauling around a Speed Graphic.

[KnightsFan]

The A7c II is one of the few cameras that I would rather have than the S5 I bought, but at >2x the price (used vs. used), it wasn't worth it. Even A7c used prices are a few hundred more than what I paid for an S5! And I'm way happier with S5 video than A7c.