Something is nagging at me to go back to smaller sensor

[BTM_Pix]

9 hours ago, kye said:

Please don't.

Sadly, I've reached the point where I have to choose between retaining a detailed knowledge of long forgotten music and recording technology or doing more than surface skimming a new camera spec sheet that I'm only vaguely interested in and thereby risk making erroneous assumptions.

I can't do both so I'm off to sit on a park bench with my thermos flask of tea and a tartan rug where I will wax lyrical to passing birds about how to manipulate the tape sync and sequencer functions of the Greengate DS:3 to fool it into becoming a de-facto AMS 15-80S for live triggered drum replacement.

[MrSMW]

20 minutes ago, BTM_Pix said:

I'm off to sit on a park bench with my thermos flask of tea and a tartan rug where I will wax lyrical to passing birds about how to manipulate the tape sync and sequencer functions of the Greengate DS:3 to fool it into becoming a de-facto AMS 15-80S for live triggered drum replacement.

I find they don’t tend to give a fuck these days as their attention spans are limited to TikTok memes only.

Birds just aren’t what they used to be…

[PannySVHS]

14 hours ago, KnightsFan said:

One reason I like full frame is that I do not want the character of a wide-open lens! My most common lens choice is in the 28-35mm range at f5.6 or f8.

There are plenty lenses at F2.8 or F4 on MFT which deliver your desired depth of field and not being wide open. The 12-35 already fits the bill and is exellent at F4, same for the Oly 17mm F1.8 at 2.8/4 or some optics from Laowa and so on. F4 vs F8 also eliminates a two stop difference in iso performance.

@QuickHitRecord GH1 really has color mojo and palette. A GH1 with the 50mbit codec and highlight rolloff of a GH3 would be all I really need. With 10bit and 10 stops dynamic range it'd be all I want. Lovely montage and video!

@BTM_Pix You, your humour, support and knowledge are staying!:) I'm eager to see your footage of these lovely birds filmed with the mighty FZ2000!:)

@Andrew ReidI think the universe deserves a British gentleman filming the world on sticks. The nerd will celebrate your renewed interest in Mft. Dual Gain sensor and fast read outs in a rock solid body are compelling. I get a solid image out of full frame Lumix any time of the day. But I am not falling in deep love with it. The S line kicks ass in lit scenarios beyond anything I would be able to buy though. I could imagine the GH6/7 and G9II being a S1H with mojo, magic and fast readouts, also weighting 40% or 400g less and adding super much nerdy toys to play with, such as 4K120, HD240, crop modes and so on plus the aforementioned Dual Gain, an exiting tech and new processing as well as colour science to explore and tinker with.

[BTM_Pix]

21 minutes ago, MrSMW said:

I find they don’t tend to give a fuck these days as their attention spans are limited to TikTok memes only.

Birds just aren’t what they used to be…

Indeed.

Any notion that the vagaries of Apple II based sampling/sequencing systems of yore is of any interest to the birds is, as they say, "for the birds".

Hang on, I may have crossed the streams there.

25 minutes ago, PannySVHS said:

I'm eager to see your footage of these lovely birds filmed with the mighty FZ2000!:)

Live scenes as they react to my tales of 1984 technology 

[PannySVHS]

That bird reminds me of Paulie from "The Sopranos"?😂 @BTM_Pix

[Ilkka Nissila]

22 hours ago, sanveer said:

Interesting. That's what most people said was the reason why the iPhone shows 12 stops of dynamic range (whereas the real dynamic range and thus exposure latitude would be much lesser). 

This is why a standardized test protocol for dynamic range is needed that is not dependent on or sensitive to processing that trades off detail to reduce noise. Patch average-based DR testing would achieve that in part, but it would still need to somehow turn off temporal noise reduction to get a true idea of what the camera's hardware is capable of.

 

The solution could be to capture 1 second of video of a patch sequence and then average the pixels spatially within each patch and over the 1 second sequence of video, and use the DR evaluated from that. This would normalize the results so that spatial and temporal noise reduction are cancelled out. The patches should be of fixed size relative to the whole frame dimensions.

[fuzzynormal]

On 12/9/2024 at 10:12 PM, MrSMW said:

not a fan of non-deliberate camera movement... heavyweight tripods

Yeah, if a move isn't motivated, then...why do it? 

On the other hand, it's a lot of fun to actually and effectively realize motivated movement; movement that helps tell the story.  When that happens you're now not just getting coverage, but doing things that start to get cinematic, imo.

Been working on two documentaries this year and I've literally wanted to shake the camera-people that shot the footage and ask them how they like it.  Spaztic shooting, very amateur hour. 

For the most part I don't use tripods these days for my own stuff, but I try to stay as quiet with the lens as possible. Still, I would have loved a heavy duty smooth-as-silk-Sachtler for some recent wildlife work where I was over (ffeq) 1500mm a lot.  Had creative solutions to get me through, but something with excessive MASS would have been the exception to my typical "stay-mobile" attitudes.

[eatstoomuchjam]

1 hour ago, fuzzynormal said:

I was over (ffeq) 1500mm a lot

1500mm (equiv) will quickly show any weaknesses in your tripod.  Or your lens mount.  Or any heat in-between you and the subject.  Or somebody walking 5 meters away.  😉

[fuzzynormal]

58 minutes ago, eatstoomuchjam said:

1500mm (equiv) will quickly show any weaknesses in your tripod.  Or your lens mount.  Or any heat in-between you and the subject.  Or somebody walking 5 meters away.  😉

Or if you fart within arms length of the rig.  Looks cool when it work though.