Leica SL3 / SL3-S

[Andrew Reid]

5 hours ago, Django said:

Anyways, the GFX seems like a beast for photography, but for video I kind of wonder if the line-skipped 4K

It's not line-skipped.

Pixel binning is the modern way of subsampling high res sensors.

As for the video rolling shutter and AF tracking, I look at it like this... There are a gazillion options for good AF and good rolling shutter, sometimes you can't get everything perfect in one camera.

The GFX 100's image however is unique - there are not a gazillion options with this image or sensor size.

It's a pleasure to use for certain kinds of video shooting.

You also have the faster rolling shutter of 15ms in 24p 4K on the GFX 100 II if you turn dynamic range priority off. So they have addressed the need for a faster readout on the second model.

I don't consider 26ms too ruinous, the a6500 and NX1 were still usable at 30ms, just not for certain things. At 38ms in 8K on the a7r V, that's when it really starts to be more noticeable for all sorts of stuff.

26ms is closer to the 1080p line skipped 5D Mark II which a lot of nice stuff has been made with in the past.

5 hours ago, Django said:

and lack of AF subject tracking makes it such a good hybrid solution versus lets say a Z8/Z9 that can adapt all kind of glass including Leica with AF using the techartpro adapter.. with up to 8K60p resolution.

Z8 is a great hybrid, no doubt about it, but it isn't the same sort of tool.

A 50mm F1.8 looks very normal on full frame, whereas on the GFX 100 it takes on an other worldly quality like a Leica Noctilux. It's that big a difference.

I would choose the GFX over Z8 for photography any day unless I wanted a sports & wildlife camera with big telephotos.

5 hours ago, Django said:

Obviously GFX100s is still a bargain for photography with 100MP and bigger than FF sensor, just not sure if the video specs are that good..

The video specs are fine, if you can't create something incredible looking with 4K, 10bit, F-LOG, IBIS, and a sensor the size of an ALEXA 65 then god help u all.

[MrSMW]

I need to stop reading about Fuji GFX100 cameras and checking prices on MPB…

[Django]

9 hours ago, Andrew Reid said:

I don't consider 26ms too ruinous, the a6500 and NX1 were still usable at 30ms, just not for certain things. At 38ms in 8K on the a7r V, that's when it really starts to be more noticeable for all sorts of stuff.

26ms is closer to the 1080p line skipped 5D Mark II which a lot of nice stuff has been made with in the past.

I'm not saying its unusable just that its a pretty slow readout. Not a surprise due to the sensor size and MP count. Like you say you can't get everything in one camera, always a tradeoff somewhere.

9 hours ago, Andrew Reid said:

The video specs are fine, if you can't create something incredible looking with 4K, 10bit, F-LOG, IBIS, and a sensor the size of an ALEXA 65 then god help u all.

Fair point. However AF is going to be an important factor on a sensor with such shallow DoF. Which also brings up what you were saying the other day about the cliche look of large sensor DoF vs crop sensors. 

To balance the video specs and MF look, perhaps pairing a GFX with a XH2S is the ideal combo. GFX for those careful dreamy shots and the XH2S for more dynamic run & gun stuff. Assuming the color science matches that could be a killer combo. Crazy to think you could get those two cameras for the price of a R5ii!