Lumix S1RII coming soon

[KnightsFan]

Those are not great RS values, that is quite unfortunate. I hope they have an option to do the 15ms and 7ms readouts in 24p, as extra options. And it looks like there is no timecode input, according to Newsshooter. So those are two things that a potential video-oriented model could still include and add value.

Still, it looks like a great camera. I said it back when the GH7 came out, but the 32 bit float XLR module is a really excellent feature that, so far, is still unique to Panasonic. If they nail the rumored video app, it will almost certainly be a front runner for video in my book.

[ArashM]

6 hours ago, Jahleh said:

Ever since my wife got GH6 I wanted 4k100p and 6k50p for Full Frame. After trying GH7 I bought her as a present I could have settled to that too, but could not quite accept it being marginally worse in low light than S5ii. 
I also wanted to try Raw, so Z6iii seemed like a perfect choise.
GH7’s Prores RawHQ was also nice but at 3,5Gbps too heavy to store.

Bought the Z6iii and compared it to S5ii and then traded in the rest of my Lumix kit for Nikkor 50mm F1.2. The 6k50p NRaw is IQ wise closer what I wanted. Though, with Noise reduction NRaw is just as heavy to edit than having a speed warp on S5ii 6k25p😆 Also with 6k even on 4k timeline having only 16-18GB of RAM will lead to swapping on M3 Pro Macbook.

Still, Z6iii EVF is much better than what S5ii has, but IBIS is a bit worse. S5ii has slightly better DR, but in low light I’ve gotten better footage out of Z6iii. 

I see, Thank you so much for your thoughts

[Davide DB]

Basically Gerald trashes the camera...

[stephen]

Yes, just watched Gerald Undone's review. Video capabilities for me can be summarized with one word - disappointment. I expected a fast sensor and it turns out this is not true.

[Davide DB]

And first Lumix camera which overheats!

 

 

[ND64]

Overheating with active cooling system is a milestone. 37 milliseconds RS is another. 

[ac6000cw]

14 minutes ago, Davide DB said:

And first Lumix camera which overheats!

Where does it say that in the CVP video?

[John Matthews]

S1rii looks like a great upgrade over the original- lots of improvements. I won't be getting it as it's too expensive for me, but I think it's going to sell rather well. Don't really care about rolling shutter as long as it's reasonable. Also, it seems that if the rolling shutter performance were much better (like with a stacked sensor), there would be a cost elsewhere. 

[j_one]

Colors and skintones look better than the s5ii and seem closer to the first gen S models. Less magenta bias too. This is a big one for me. I like the new A2 profile, too.

Despite the higher MP drawbacks we all predicted, I'm looking beyond: the supposed video-oriented camera on the way just may be the one.

Last thing I'm looking to see is if the compressed recording options are plagued with the same processing issues as the s5ii.

[MurtlandPhoto]

Ed Prosser has the best video-focused review I've seen thus far 

 

[Davide DB]

30 minutes ago, ac6000cw said:

Where does it say that in the CVP video?

Sorry, I was quoting Undone and I saw another two videos with the camera locked for overheating. Moreover battery runtime are ridiculous 

[MrSMW]

21 minutes ago, John Matthews said:

S1rii looks like a great upgrade over the original- lots of improvements. I won't be getting it as it's too expensive for me

Ditto. In a moment of incredible self control, I have decided to pass.

I think it's an upgrade over the OG S1R, probably...

For video, yes, for stills, probably not much if anything in it.

I was looking for and hoping for a 1/2 price Leica SL-3. 

This is close, but not close enough and the benchmark is my A7RV and the new LUMIX does not beat it.

I'm not sure for stills it even equals it, but real world, there would not be so much in that.

I've run the financials and it would cost me approx €1200 to go sideways with less focal range, albeit with less kit and be within one system, but there just isn't enough for me to make it happen.

At least not at this time, but I will look at it again after this next season and before the new one at the same time next year.

In fact, other than flipping my 3rd S5ii for an S9 and possibly getting a few primes for that within the next few months, I'm sticking with what I have and focusing on the craft this year as the tools are already good enough for my needs.

I really hoped between LUMIX and Sigma, they would produce something for me to give up my A7RV, but nope, nothing yet. And I am far from being a Sony fanboi !!

I am however going to do this 😜

[zerocool22]

8k is so overkill. When shooting raw, 8k eats too much storage.

Best news of this camera is no crop 60fps 4k! Finally panasonic has done it.

But I wont upgrade from s5ii zs qi dont see the need. The footage doesnt seem that much better vs the s5ii.

[Django]

37ms rolling shutter for Open Gate is such a deal breaker to me. Open gate is the only reason I’d consider switching to Lumix. Plus it overheats ?!! Fuggetaboutit..

[ArashM]

45 minutes ago, MrSMW said:

I am however going to do this 😜

Is that some sort of a cover?

[MrSMW]

6 minutes ago, ArashM said:

Is that some sort of a cover?

Alphagvrd wrap!

 

[Marcio Kabke Pinheiro]

11 minutes ago, MrSMW said:

Alphagvrd wrap!

 

I never thought about wraps because I suspect that it could brings overheat problems. But for a stills only camera, could be no issue.

[ac6000cw]

1 hour ago, John Matthews said:

S1rii looks like a great upgrade over the original- lots of improvements. I won't be getting it as it's too expensive for me, but I think it's going to sell rather well. Don't really care about rolling shutter as long as it's reasonable. Also, it seems that if the rolling shutter performance were much better (like with a stacked sensor), there would be a cost elsewhere. 

I think that pretty much agree.

I also agree with Gerald Undone's comment that it should have a general no-oversampling/low rolling shutter option in addition to the normal/extended DR switch. The (line-skipped) 4k120p is around 8ms RS, so we know it's possible, albeit with less DR and less sharpness etc.

But at the price (which will fall to sub-$3000 probably fairly quickly), it seems like a lot of camera for the money. If you want 8k video with much lower RS, go buy a more expensive camera...

[MrSMW]

41 minutes ago, Marcio Kabke Pinheiro said:

I never thought about wraps because I suspect that it could brings overheat problems. But for a stills only camera, could be no issue.

Not expecting anything really and actually, out in sunlight (most of my work) a lighter or more reflective colour is actually going to absorb less direct sunlight such as all black camera bodies do.

16 minutes ago, ac6000cw said:

But at the price (which will fall to sub-$3000 probably fairly quickly), it seems like a lot of camera for the money

Yes, this time next year, it might be a bit better for me as I think it's €3600 pre-order in the EU but 12 months time, they are going to be circa €2500 probably on MPB and I'd rather buy used for major purchases such as bodies and lenses.

Something I did not say in any of my above ramblings was/is if I was shopping from scratch today, I think I'd go for one over even my A7RV...as a 4th/stills camera to my other 3x LUMIX cameras. Just not going to switch at over €1k more for the LUMIX. At parity, cost-wise, OK, I could make a case.

From a video perspective, I don't think I'd trade an S5ii for one. Not unless you absolutely had to have 8k or 6k full frame. I wouldn't anyway.

I do think down the line though, it could be on the cards for me as my principal stills unit, but we'll see...

 

[newfoundmass]

This is one of those instances where it feels like Lumix is damned if they do, damned if they don't. They gave their high resolution stills oriented line a huge video upgrade, holding back very little, and it's still not enough to satisfy a lot of folks. This is a very capable video camera for a camera that is meant for still/hybrid shooters.

The only thing that is unacceptable to me, and it's a very big thing, is the overheating.