Panasonic Lumix S1R Mark II coming soon

[Andrew Reid]

12 minutes ago, Emanuel said:

Oh God, lot of people have zero interest about some topic but they need to have a living, you know?

Yeah that's fine. Don't bore me with it though.

[Emanuel]

27 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said:

Yeah that's fine. Don't bore me with it though.

Indeed : ) We can easily ignore that. As for instance, I usually don't have patience for his reviews but I eat each word of yours! ; ) Even when/if I don't fully agree... even though, I must concur I often agree with most part of your observations : )

 

Passion can make the difference but there is place for everyone, well, except bad students! : D I firmly hate them! :- )

[Andrew Reid]

Can we easily ignore it?

I mean you just spent nearly the entire last page talking about your career.

What use is this information to us in an S1R II topic?

[Emanuel]

4 hours ago, Andrew Reid said:

Can we easily ignore it?

I mean you just spent nearly the entire last page talking about your work.

Sure : ) I live my work with passion. I couldn't live without it. I don't lose a single opportunity to live it or interact with other people sharing the same vibe for. But we cannot expect the same from everyone. Unfortunately, even stealing hours of sleep and to my family. I don't think it's even healthy that obsession about it, so I tend to refrain myself but it's like a drug, I'm afraid to admit it.

Your forum has something those other places don't have. The enthusiasm of the people here. It's alive and vivid.

Some other aspect, it's a tough craft, so we have need for that attention, I guess. The most effective paycheck. I don't do it for money. But I believe we cannot think the entire world outside us is like that.

Speaking of your enthusiasm, including when you hint to not prone to like it. And also because something we should never forget -- no matter the plot, hence focus on the outline. So, all about the story structure in benefit of us who share that (I've got it and on the line you now introduced in your edited post to pair my answer to @wolf33d already left, so let's easily move on : ) any chance for a shootout between your Z8 and the S1RII? I speak by myself obviously but I think I can also do it on behalf of many others here, we have more need of some review from someone like you rather than the usual marketing channels out there.

[PannySVHS]

7 hours ago, Ninpo33 said:

DRE is only available in the 5.8k and above higher res modes if I remember correctly. Also, read out speeds at 4k and super 35 are below 15s rolling shutter at 60p so very usable. 
 

Also, I love the ”Bokina”. I have several of the older Tokina/Vivitar Series 1 lenses and they are really a bargain for the image they produce and the build quality. 

I got the Vivitar 1 alteration of the Bokina. I'd call it the steelhammer version. It is so robust and tough. Mine has a ca 1/3" × 1/4" × 1/4" chunk of steel chipped off miraculously by a former owner, maybe in a steelhammer manner. It still operates like a charm. This lens is crazy regarding built. What a beasty lens. I have only used it once or twice many years ago. I must change that. Which Viv I lenses do you have? @Ninpo33We could do a Vivitar cinema verité piece or any kind of video and share it here.

I got the Bokina and a Vivitar 35mm 1.9, which I wouldnt consider in the same league as the Bokina. I'm pretty sure the 35mm is not a lens from the I series. The 28mm F2 looks beautiful. Must be a pleasure to hold and use.

It's a shame I left that gem collecting dust. As it comes to my mind, I even have a converter for it, changing it into a 60 or 65mm lens. This lens is a good reason for some solid tripod fun!

Back to topic. If the S1RII has a creamy look like a C500II with absence of oversharpening, it could be a tempting prospect of Gas. Better not.:)

[Emanuel]

9 minutes ago, PannySVHS said:

I got the Vivitar 1 alteration of the Bokina. I'd call it the steelhammer version. It is so robust and tough. Mine has a ca 1/3" × 1/4" × 1/4" chunk of steel chipped off miraculously by a former owner, maybe in a steelhammer manner. It still operates like a charm. This lens is crazy regarding built. What a beasty lens. I have only used it once or twice many years ago. I must change that. Which Viv I lenses do you have? @Ninpo33We could do a piece and share it here with the others.

I got the Bokina and a Vivitar 35mm 1.9, which wouldnt consider the in the same league as the Bokina. I'm pretty sure the 35mm is not a lens from the I series. The 28mm F2 looks beautiful. Must be a pleasure to hold and use.

It's a shame I left that gem collecting dust. As it comes to my mind, I even have a converter for it, changing it into a 60 or 65mm lens. This lens is a good reason for some solid tripod fun!

Man, do we meet? When? ; ) Tomorrow I will meet some Polish EOSHD user I crossed my life with over these same pages. He will be with his Fuji and I will be with my FX30 and some vintage glass, that is, if I will locally find an adapter till tomorrow... I am done with Amazon's local courier (CTT Express failed their delivery for today!).

Any pics from those setups BTW?

PS: Andrew could organise a meeting for those users interested to test my spoken English skills! LOL ;- )

[Andrew Reid]

Why do we need to know this?? Lol.

 

[Emanuel]

6 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said:

Why do we need to know this?? Lol.

 

Sorry Andrew, two birds with one stone... Gerald's subtopic or subplot and my request already left in my previous post to see you testing the camera! : ) You're right! Why bother with the usual marketing channels? And also my enthusiasm to see you and many other people here but for real and at full colour! :- )

 

[PannySVHS]

We could meet in Berlin, though I have mostly done photo safaris but hardly any video rides with friends. I went on a cinema verité tour by myself last year for a couple of days, with my og pocket and a 25mm Cmount lens. S1H with the Vivitar 90mm and a tripod is rather something for a single filmer expedition I imagine and a rather unsocial affair of carrying and sweating heavily:)@Emanuel

Hardly any videos on youtube from the 10bit fullframe league by Sony, Canon and Panasonic have wowed me. Nikon Z6III looked awesome in the skating video. A real stand out regarding motion, texture and colour. I also admired some Canon R7 videos for their colour. I'm interested to see how the S1RII will be put to use. Panasonic had one impressive launch video for the GH6 from a french director which was a true showcase. All the other GH6 videos were again rather generic imho.

[Emanuel]

So much vintage love is plainly mouthwatering... LOL ; )

Pity that L mount is still fresh in this business. There are rumors on the last announcement that the 5th new brand to join the L-Mount Alliance can happen to be Viltrox... that would bring some freshness and affordable options for ; )

RS coming from S1RII doesn't bother me so much, even though a few report it as unusuable but of course, depends a lot of the use you do under your shooting style. However, many other cons brought to the equation can diminish any potential enthusiasm for a new Panasonic release, as Andrew has pointed out on his article. I can't wait to see more of it!

[PannySVHS]

@Emanuel RS in 6K/4K 60p full frame is around 15.5ms, so pretty good and not an issue for most scenarios. I am not fond of the 22ms in 24p 8k/4k, especially not the latter. What I could take away from the online footage is a lush creamyness of textures which I really like, high resolution without oversharpening.

[Emanuel]

49 minutes ago, PannySVHS said:

@Emanuel RS in 6K/4K 60p full frame is around 15.5ms, so pretty good and not an issue for most scenarios. I am not fond of the 22ms in 24p 8k/4k, especially not the latter. What I could take away from the online footage is a lush creamyness of textures which I really like, a high resolution without oversharpening.

In fact, same here : ) And seems 6K 50p or 60p can be an interesting route to justify it ; ) I second what you say, mate, so it's under my radar these days...

This customary specs list is always a pain for lacking what FF and crop (thinking about those new anamorphic AF releases, OK I confess! LOL ; ) is, respectively, from there:

 

EDIT -- OK, here is then:

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As Andrew has defended, that massive ProRes bitrate is a source of concern no doubt... I wonder (and following their video tradition and customer care) if not possible to overcome it along next firmware updates?

[Andrew Reid]

2 hours ago, Emanuel said:

Sorry Andrew, two birds with one stone... Gerald's subtopic or subplot and my request already left in my previous post to see you testing the camera! : ) You're right! Why bother with the usual marketing channels? And also my enthusiasm to see you and many other people here but for real and at full colour! :- )

With all due respect... It's not a forum about you, but about cameras.

Let's start thinking about what is interesting to read and insightful for the 100s of people reading or researching at this moment, and what is pages and pages of personal exposition with no relation to the topic of cameras.

We can discuss Gerald, he is very much on topic... including this one, as he has reviewed the S1R II.

"UK (from London to Belfast) is my official residence and Malta will follow at same time for soon, very likely. With a few productions a bit spread all over EU and East Europe to include Moscow and Kyiv"

This isn't S1R II related.

It's about you.

Let's not always make stuff about ourselves shall we?

[Emanuel]

4 hours ago, Andrew Reid said:

With all due respect... It's not a forum about you, but about cameras.

Let's start thinking about what is interesting to read and insightful for the 100s of people reading or researching at this moment, and what is pages and pages of personal exposition with no relation to the topic of cameras.

We can discuss Gerald, he is very much on topic... including this one, as he has reviewed the S1R II.

"UK (from London to Belfast) is my official residence and Malta will follow at same time for soon, very likely. With a few productions a bit spread all over EU and East Europe to include Moscow and Kyiv"

This isn't S1R II related.

It's about you.

Let's not always make stuff about ourselves shall we?

That came from my answer to other user who directly addressed a personal question to me I politely answered him. I am used to answer everyone because I think it's not cool to let anyone without reply. Same for the topic about Gerald. I even agree with you that sometimes people are focused on the reviewers than the gear itself. Let alone reviews... This one liked this, that one liked that. WTH serves this reviewer's likings or the other one?

I think we can learn with the experience of each other, so I try to talk about what I'm doing just for the sake to share. Also for letting some other users do it if they feel like. More in the sense to share, give and not expecting to come here to collect and collect.

The same for my interest to read from you on your findings about the cameras you don't like included : ) TBH at times, I think it's more useful to hear what someone doesn't like and has to say about this or that, that the other way round = D People call it feedback : ) but there are many Olivias named with the same name...

Maybe one of the reasons me and many others come here?

I believe people are a bit uninterested with the customary praise after praise to each camera release. Like that will finally boost their careers! : D 

Oh gosh, well, on the main topic then (not that the career of people is or not for any use), but you haven't answered yet if you intend or don't know yet if you'll test the S1RII?

I am thinking to buy the camera as many others who come here, so listen you really helps! : ) And your recent Z8 bet only fuels such interest even more... I can't obviously talk in the name of anyone else here, so only by myself ; ) that both cameras are exactly the ones I mainly focus today.

Hope this won't sound self-centered 'cause looks like that can happen to be inferred from my written speech. You know we are not all the same. The world would be poor without many colours. Intentions are always a bit tricky to be translated in the written communication. We have no everyone the same level of speech, with different cultural backgrounds, etc., so I try my best. My apologies if I don't succeed to reach this or that level of satisfaction of whom we would like to. But it's not easy either if you or anyone here currently address me whatever topic is : D despite my pleasure to talk to you all, go figure off topic! LOL But I will try to behave : ) also because of you! I guess the fact I've addressed my fair concerns on this camera topic just now along the previous posts (not for looking like just fine in the picture) expresses very well such goodwill and even agreement (you can say it) about that. Yes, in behalf of what we're doing here :- )

[Emanuel]

3 hours ago, Emanuel said:

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EDIT -- OK, here is then:

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So, keep going strictly on topic about this camera, seems interesting to have available some kind of test with the different coverage of vintage glass as for instance, for those different crops (1:04, 1:10, 1.11, 1.17, 1.31, 1.52, 1.65), wouldn't it be? If not for all : P at least for those to mainly be used. As earlier mentioned by two of us, RS can even be irrelevant. Let's not mention the shooting style now but the selectable recording mode chosen.

I don't even mention from my experience with a particular L-mount camera of my own : D but OM or Adaptall-2 to L-mount are two fine examples of affordable glass options, already existent, we can use it right there :- )

[IronFilm]

On 3/8/2025 at 12:16 PM, Andrew Reid said:

What next? GFX 100 for OnlyFans?

It happens more often than you'd think!

On 3/8/2025 at 12:51 PM, newfoundmass said:

the comments about why he doesn't create anything were really illuminating

Why? What did he say

On 3/8/2025 at 1:41 PM, wolf33d said:

Sure, @ landcapturer on IG you can see my photography

Was there a typo in that username?

 

[Ninpo33]

1 hour ago, Emanuel said:

So, keep going strictly on topic about this camera, seems interesting to have available some kind of test with the different coverage of vintage glass as for instance, for those different crops (1:04, 1:10, 1.11, 1.17, 1.31, 1.52, 1.65), wouldn't it be? If not for all : P at least for those to mainly be used. As earlier mentioned by two of us, RS can even be irrelevant. Let's not mention the shooting style now but the selectable recording mode chosen.

This new video from Connor is helpful to me. Nice little rundown of a lot of the main crop modes. He was nice enough to include a link to download all the files so if anyone wants to play, check out the link below.

A couple of things if noticed while reviewing footage and doing more research about the S1Rii, the color fidelity really does look good, I’m really liking this sensor so far. Kind of crazy how good the 4.2.0 files look compared to the 4.2.2 and Prores. Also there is mention a few places that the new IBIS is so good that it might be helping to counteract the slower readout speeds. Would be quite the development if that ended up being why the 24ms doesn’t look bad to most people…

 

 

[Ninpo33]

5 hours ago, PannySVHS said:

I got the Vivitar 1 alteration of the Bokina. I'd call it the steelhammer version. It is so robust and tough. Mine has a ca 1/3" × 1/4" × 1/4" chunk of steel chipped off miraculously by a former owner, maybe in a steelhammer manner. It still operates like a charm. This lens is crazy regarding built. What a beasty lens. I have only used it once or twice many years ago. I must change that. Which Viv I lenses do you have? @Ninpo33We could do a Vivitar cinema verité piece or any kind of video and share it here.

I got the Bokina and a Vivitar 35mm 1.9, which I wouldnt consider in the same league as the Bokina. I'm pretty sure the 35mm is not a lens from the I series. The 28mm F2 looks beautiful. Must be a pleasure to hold and use.

It's a shame I left that gem collecting dust. As it comes to my mind, I even have a converter for it, changing it into a 60 or 65mm lens. This lens is a good reason for some solid tripod fun!

Back to topic. If the S1RII has a creamy look like a C500II with absence of oversharpening, it could be a tempting prospect of Gas. Better not.:)

I have the 35mm f/1.9 as well. Both of ours are probably made by Komine for Vivitar. Does your serial number start with 28XXX? Great lens. I also have the 24mm f/2 and the 28mm f/2 from the same time period both made by Kiron for Vivitar: Series 1 I only have the Bokina and the 135mm f/2.3. I think these will start to be creeping up in price soon due to people finally finding them. : )

[Emanuel]

47 minutes ago, Ninpo33 said:

I have the 35mm f/1.9 as well. Both of ours are probably made by Komine for Vivitar. Does your serial number start with 28XXX? Great lens. I also have the 24mm f/2 and the 28mm f/2 from the same time period both made by Kiron for Vivitar: Series 1 I only have the Bokina and the 135mm f/2.3. I think these will start to be creeping up in price soon due to people finally finding them. : )

Same here for those f/2... Totally agree, but you're still able to find them for $100 :- )

[newfoundmass]

3 hours ago, IronFilm said:

Why? What did he say

He essentially said he doesn't need/want to create "art", that it's not relevant to what he does or what his videos are about. He said he COULD if he wanted to, but doesn't want to. "If you want reviews like that, go somewhere else" was basically what he said. He said he doesn't care how these cameras perform in those scenarios, and says he really doesn't even care about things like DR or rolling shutter because he only makes videos in his basement set where he has lighting and the cameras are on tripods. He just tests that stuff because it's what people asked him to do. 

If you take that, and then go back to the video last year where he complained about Lumix and bragged about going on these exotic trips and never actually shooting anything, it just makes you wonder why he is even interested in cameras to begin with because he seems to have no real interest in creating anything with them other than videos of himself in his basement. 

I guess it's a living, but he seems miserable.