Panasonic Lumix S1R Mark II coming soon

[MrSMW]

26 minutes ago, Walter H said:

Well, preorder placed. If it arrives before I head out of town, the first thing I will do is record a shutter sound comparison with my S1. (Here's looking at you, @MrSMW.)

You've been listening 😉

It was awful on the S5, sublime on the S1H, better (than the OG S5) with the S5ii and I'd expect the S1Rii to be not so far off the S1H.

[Walter H]

15 minutes ago, MrSMW said:

You've been listening 😉

It was awful on the S5, sublime on the S1H, better (than the OG S5) with the S5ii and I'd expect the S1Rii to be not so far off the S1H.

Well, when I started coming back to EOSHD and read your laments, I knew we were on the same page. That clatchy shutter has been the reason I've almost eclusively used the S5 for video. For stills, I always grab the S1.

[wushuliu]

On 3/13/2025 at 12:45 PM, Ninpo33 said:

The tests all lead to what the camera can and can’t do out in the real world. What’s being implied is that some of these tests (and the added commentary from Gerald) make it appear that the camera won’t be able to perform as needed. Whether that’s cinematic or commercial or whatever it’s sort of irrelevant. 

Watching that last video I came to the opposite conclusion - maybe because I watched most of it with the sound off so I didn't have to hear Gerald's commentary. My observations were:

1. The base rolling shutter is fine and the criticisms amount to hysteria. The 15ms shots looked better, sure, but only because you're comparing back to back. No viewer in the real world would care.

2. *Panasonic has provided multiple modes that allow you to mitigate RS*. Amazing that isn't the the takeaway. You can get decent read speed in a pinch, you just have to make some (minor) compromises.

3. Don't do panning shots with telephoto lenses. If Robert Altman super-zoom pans are your jam, then the S1RII sucks.

I like how the first thing the camera guy Gerald wrangled along said was 'I mainly do dolly shots so rolling shutter doesn't matter to me' and then had to come up with some debilitating circumstance for bad RS. If you listen to Gerald's commentary then you get a negative take-away. If you just use your eyes you see a really capable and flexible camera.

[PannySVHS]

Good thing, Ninpo made a joke and that you know about it. Just these youtube jokers make themselves believe they are not a joke nor shills. @wushuliu

We know they are a joke though and not even being entertaining.

S1RII, keep the hot footage coming.:)

[Ninpo33]

3 hours ago, wushuliu said:

Watching that last video I came to the opposite conclusion - maybe because I watched most of it with the sound off so I didn't have to hear Gerald's commentary. My observations were:

1. The base rolling shutter is fine and the criticisms amount to hysteria. The 15ms shots looked better, sure, but only because you're comparing back to back. No viewer in the real world would care.

2. *Panasonic has provided multiple modes that allow you to mitigate RS*. Amazing that isn't the the takeaway. You can get decent read speed in a pinch, you just have to make some (minor) compromises.

3. Don't do panning shots with telephoto lenses. If Robert Altman super-zoom pans are your jam, then the S1RII sucks.

I like how the first thing the camera guy Gerald wrangled along said was 'I mainly do dolly shots so rolling shutter doesn't matter to me' and then had to come up with some debilitating circumstance for bad RS. If you listen to Gerald's commentary then you get a negative take-away. If you just use your eyes you see a really capable and flexible camera.

Oh yeah, for sure, I agree with you. I was talking about the first video Gerald made and how he “implied” things. Meaning he said a bunch of stuff which was exaggerated and then misunderstood by a lot of people. And yeah, the second video showed that it wasn’t really an issue. He tried to make people happy after the fact but for me the damage was done. 

[Andrew Reid]

On 3/12/2025 at 8:39 PM, ntblowz said:

Is this the first time he actually go out of the studio to test with real people? Can't believe he make 3 videos out of this S1RII!

 

 

What the fuck is the skipping rope test telling us?

[Andrew Reid]

I've noticed a bit of a trend with Gerald...

Provoke the nerds for clicks and then back pedal furiously when the PR team get upset.

[Andrew Reid]

I just think 30ms+ rolling shutter in 2025 on a $3.5 hybrid cam is a bit of a piss take, and it does render the open gate mode compromised and also the 8K.

The line-skipped / pixel binned modes are fine though.

Decent amount of detail, but again nothing that a much cheaper camera can't do.