Panasonic Lumix S1R Mark II coming soon

[Emanuel]

6 hours ago, Emanuel said:

Who is him as member here on EOSHD or just a lurker? I am curious...

It's curious when we find someone who shares the same thinking as you and not necessarily to mere camera releases/models talk, common grounds or same opinions about... Prolific perspective I vividly recommend to everyone : ) Platform comes next... don't be tied to a prior script/business plan whatever fancy the trend looks like to be, after all, it doesn't apply only to the digital camera world ; ) Work and career flow altogether, no AI (those recent strikes sound too weird to me TBH reminds me the film crowd when digital revolution came or REDvolution popped up), let's repeat, no AI will take you away from your door ;- )

[Andrew Reid]

Has anyone got a translator?

[Emanuel]

LOL : ) OK, let's for one picture now...

 

But I still recommend to eveyone of us to not defocus of that hinted by that guy above in that reminder there... No tools, no AI either (in a so difficult situation this business is) can overcome our own path to form the need other than our own asset: 

Our ability to create the market. 

 

With content.

 

Don't let the audiences (or the channels, as aforementioned TikToks, YTs, etc.) push on our behalf, instead.*

There's world outside social media. 

And the written form in these boards are the fine example of it. 

As many sensibilities and levels (layers, needs...) as colouful as human kind is. 

IIRC I recall to have read here in this same thread a couple of pages back and about a certain network, something like there's reality outside the current 2025 news trend (or narrative as it was written), that is, you didn't use exactly all those words in specific or that was the topic (more of it) but your readers are able to infer that from : )

I see it as really meaningful.

 

OK, that guy didn't quote Ortega Y Gasset ; ) but I will now then and as he once said, we are our circumstances, for sure, but they should never overthrow us unless we let them play such part.

 

This operates in lato sensu and in stricto sensu in many aspects of human life.

In short, because context can be a bitch = ) we love all these tools (or a good part to each camera release... = D) but as we know, it's not there the main concern of our craft.

 

Hope this helps as reflection of my own indeed,

- EAG :- )

 

* In some other equation-form: 

sender (encoding) -> receiver (decoding)

vs 

sender <- receiver 

(trading places, that is, along the process of encoding/decoding completely upside down...)

≠ 

sender <-> receiver

(for some reason we've had Marvel... and a few partisans have respond with Anora as for instance... but do not blame me to go off topic here! xD)

[MrSMW]

Emanuel = part Confucious, part early AI bot.

I literally have no idea what you are talking about...but at the same time, appreciate your efforts!

[Ninpo33]

7 hours ago, Emanuel said:

for instance... but do not blame me to go off topic here! xD)

I would not be able to tell even if you did my friend. 
 

Honest question for you, all jokes aside. Do you use a translation app before posting? Whatever your process is for posting in English, it isn’t working out so good. I would like to understand what you are saying but I feel that less then 10% of your thoughts are making it across to the other side here. 

[newfoundmass]

I love Emanuel because even though i can't understand 70% of what he says, I can tell from what I do understand and how long his posts are that they are pretty thoughtful. Haha

 

My friend, maybe speak in your native language? That might help, I think we can translate it can't we? Maybe that's an option we can add of this forum? 

[John Matthews]

This might sound ironic but I think if he used AI (ChatGPT) to translate for him, it will most likely be near flawless, which is to opposite point I think he's trying to make. I have used it extensively and it rarely makes mistakes. Also, you learn quite a bit from doing it too. Now, I rarely make mistakes when I write in French. AI is exceptionally good with their language models.

[Emanuel]

No, mates, sorry to disappoint you haha but I never use any of those.

The key is on bold in my last post, two words sum up the whole thing... I know my written expression is not always plain and simple but c'mon, it's not so much cryptic! : D

No, it's anything but not necessarily about English itself. Communication is not a democratic matter, unfortunately.

I can assure you I surely express myself in English I use as my 2nd language for all my life. Others follow but if I am able to communicate/live during decades in Italian, Spanish or even French as 3rd, 4th and 5th tools, if I've spent many days, weeks, months, years -- last time, three years in a row, with my native language once a week on the phone, how the hell English would not serve? : P) Or at least since I've started to communicate with people who don't speak another language. And trust me, everyone is able to understand me very well both spoken and written English as natural preferred foreign language : ) 

It's nothing about that. The way I use the words or the 'substance' behind, I guess. I remember when I attended for first time the law school before film school... We had some program (introduction to law) and we were used to enter there, attend the classes for a full hour without understanding a single word of the words pronounced by the lecturer.

It's all about the subject. And believe me, I don't do for purpose, go figure, because that's the pure truth : ) I just write the same I've always been used since ever, whether as student or lecturer. Of course, the same kind of language used when I was used to reach 19 out of 20 in my classes of aesthetics, for example, are prone to not match the receiver everywhere especially where we are all here used to talk about camera technology instead.

The point is that the fields intersect themselves and when I see some kind of my reflection from my own, I tend to comment. Using the same level of language of ever. But if you'll listen the guy coming from that YT video up there, part of the stuff is implicit from his interesting approach about his career and this industry. So, I guess you won't lose much of the content of my posts here. Also because if you don't follow this or that, it's also because this hasn't been brought to your attention, so quite probably you won't need to follow it in any way whatsoever.

In any case, I appreciate your care to interact and straightforward communication. Thanks for your feedback! :- )

 

 

[Emanuel]

On the leftover, that guy mentioned the fact people must produce content without focusing on distribution. If you have something to show, the doors will become naturally open for you. And there's no reason to be afraid to end without work even in the advent of AI. Hence the portion off topic, albeit everywhere these days.

Audiences dictate the business. Majorities can be dangerous (and we see it quite well in the current situation we're all live in today ; ) Who controls the distribution chain. I had just written "window" instead : D but I'm afraid I need to express myself with extreme caution in order to be perceived by the receiver : )

When we talk about communication (and content in this business is all about that), it's worthy to listen what people like Edward Hall, Paul Watzlawick, only to mention a couple of them, had the chance to bring to the world of the communication theory.

Why? Because that will have impact on the result of our efforts. 

Our work and career cannot depend on their findings, but the range of our path will or not come along. 

The more we research and learn, the more we see that to effectively push the quality of our product. 

No need for a magic translator = D to let us guess the rest of the story when we have the market in our hands ; ) and not vice versa : )

It's the goal or sweet spot, not the audiences/clientele to dictate our art form. 

It's a complex balance for sure. 

Requires attitude, knowledge, much beyond a technical one. 

And technology has a minimal place in this equation. 

(I hope the use of these words such as "equation", etc., may rise from a trivial post but not to max out exclusive, c'mon! : )

 

In conclusion, tools are useful but why to be so worried with?

No camera release will save our ass.

That's what that YT guy said. It's much more all about the experience we have as professionals. I live from this business and not in my native country where I've only stayed for family reasons more recently in the last few years, but the course of my work stands out there in a daily basis where I've worked and lived in many countries (always using daily English practically with everyone and for everything work-related nowadays when not in my personal life in the past even 24/7 BTW ; ) in Europe... Italy, Spain, France, Germany, Denmark, all over ex-YU, Russia (Moscow), Ukraine (Kyiv), Baltic countries, Malta, UK (London/Belfast) and without mention all of them, yet U.S. where I am currently based in NJ (with a foot in NY) and Florida, and even countries in Asia like Japan or China, NZ in the antipodes of my homeland just to refer this territory in particular where with a business partner of mine, I am co-producer of two feature films, distributed worldwide, which have crossed many borders, go figure...

[Andrew Reid]

3 hours ago, newfoundmass said:

I love Emanuel because even though i can't understand 70% of what he says, I can tell from what I do understand and how long his posts are that they are pretty thoughtful. Haha

 

My friend, maybe speak in your native language? That might help, I think we can translate it can't we? Maybe that's an option we can add of this forum? 

I'm happy for him to go with his native language and we can have a button in the toolbar.

But it's entirely up to him 🙂

[Andrew Reid]

2 hours ago, Emanuel said:

On the leftover, that guy mentioned the fact people must produce content without focusing on distribution. If you have something to show, the doors will become naturally open for you. And there's no reason to be afraid to end without work even in the advent of AI. Hence the portion off topic, even though everywhere today.

Audiences dictate the business. Majorities can be dangerous (and we see it quite well in the current situation we're all live in today ; ) Who controls the distribution chain. I had just written "window" instead : D but I'm afraid I need to express myself with extreme caution in order to be perceived by the receiver.

When we talk about communication (and content in this business is all about that), it's worthy to listen what people like Edward Hall, Paul Watzlawick, only to mention a couple of them, had the chance to bring to the world of the communication theory.

Am starting to feel we are maybe a bit off the S1R Mark II trail and half way to new zealand.

Please remember the other users...

They click an S1R II topic and want concise info about it.

It's fine to have the occasional diversion in a topic but this stuff is taking it too far my friend.

And it's not a one off.

I don't speak for myself but for the average lurker.

It is really annoying for them to have to scroll through so much off topic chatter.

[Emanuel]

5 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said:

I'm happy for him to go with his native language and we can have a button in the toolbar.

But it's entirely up to him 🙂

I wish it would help. Language issues or comprehending each other is much beyond the use of idioms. Unfortunately.

[Emanuel]

9 hours ago, Andrew Reid said:

Am starting to feel we are maybe a bit off the S1R Mark II trail and half way to new zealand.

Please remember the other users...

They click an S1R II topic and want concise info about it.

It's fine to have the occasional diversion in a topic but this stuff is taking it too far my friend.

And it's not a one off.

I don't speak for myself but for the average lurker.

It is really annoying for them to have to scroll through so much off topic chatter.

My love for signs (hate to repeat vocables as for instance, not AI! LOL : ) and enthusiasm for communication in general, surpasses (maybe! ; ) the cameras, I'm afraid : )

You're right. Far to be the place. That's more than the reason for that.

[Andrew Reid]

6 minutes ago, Emanuel said:

I wish it would help. Language issues or comprehending each other is much beyond the use of idioms. Unfortunately.

Maybe you can use memes instead, I put a GIF button in.

[BTM_Pix]

Deep Joy

 

[John Matthews]

After ralphing up my lunch from watching rolling shutter comparisons, I can safely say the Lumix S1Rii is pile of crap comparatively speaking. It's completely unusable in this regard and I'm sure Lumix will either be releasing an update or submitting a recall. Here's the proof: 

 

[ND64]

It still boggles my mind how youtubers don't understand for RS comparison you should put the two footages above eachother, not place them horizontally. 

[newfoundmass]

4 hours ago, John Matthews said:

After ralphing up my lunch from watching rolling shutter comparisons, I can safely say the Lumix S1Rii is pile of crap comparatively speaking. It's completely unusable in this regard and I'm sure Lumix will either be releasing an update or submitting a recall. Here's the proof: 

 

Forgive me because I've been terribly sick and am just waking up, but the rolling shutter only seemed really noticeable when dynamic range was on. For everything else it looked fine.

[Walter H]

6 hours ago, John Matthews said:

After ralphing up my lunch from watching rolling shutter comparisons, I can safely say the Lumix S1Rii is pile of crap comparatively speaking. It's completely unusable in this regard and I'm sure Lumix will either be releasing an update or submitting a recall. Here's the proof: 

 

And in some context - main take away from the video is that if you are focussed on a compelling subject, rolling shutter is not what people are paying attention to: 

 

[Walter H]

So much for me not watching reviews, but I am glad I found this which just seems a bit slower and more grounded.

While there is a lot of similar ground covered from earlier reviews, things that stand out to me in this one are

• lots of great imagery and skin tone in a variety of lighting
• perhaps a slight over correction toward magenta? but no more of the greens that I am always pulling out of my S1 footage
• dynamic range gains are weighted toward the shadows and highlights need to be better protected when they are prioritized and
• fantastic color and noise stability when lifting shadows relative to prior S cameras (like shocking to me)
• don't use DRE with 8K for a sit-down interview.