Panasonic Lumix S1R Mark II coming soon

[Emanuel]

I found his video very long. Much yadda yadda. To me. Couldn't hold for long. Others think the same of me! LOL So, all OK : ) Out of curiosy, I even had to go back (either outside there or here abovementioned and posted) for so much buzz... 

A short note anyway: if I'd write the history of this release, I wouldn't focus on his subscribers mark, not even the criticism about the guy. Only the cons of this camera. How to overcome it, no less. And how this compares with the competition (with... not compared to ; )

That and the recent Z8 talk here on EOSHD is something much more interesting IMHO.

The pros, we're already aware of it in a camera release launched this year of 2025.

[greenscreen]

They could have launched it earlier. A bit late to the party in 2025.

[shooter]

PDAF is also late.

[greenscreen]

23 minutes ago, shooter said:

PDAF is also late.

Better late than never and it was high time that Panasonic had recognized this.

[shooter]

23 minutes ago, greenscreen said:

Better late than never and it was high time that Panasonic had recognized this.

Yup, and how this compares with Nikon? Whereas Z6 and Z7 look to struggle a bit, users say Z8 is better. How do they compare with this Panasonic?

[greenscreen]

18 minutes ago, shooter said:

Yup, and how this compares with Nikon? Whereas Z6 and Z7 look to struggle a bit, users say Z8 is better. How do they compare with this Panasonic?

The PDAF sensors are horizontally oriented. They work all the same. In real life you have to try hard to make it fail.

[ntblowz]

 

The DR on S1RII is definitely better than FX3

4k120p on FX3 is much better though.

[wolf33d]

On 3/8/2025 at 2:34 AM, eatstoomuchjam said:

I only see two posts and the account has only two followers.  Is it right?  You mentioned 10k followers later in the post so I'm assuming that either it was posted incorrectly or my copy/paste skills have decayed.

Oops. IG is landscapturer*

[Caleb Genheimer]

The thing I don’t get… and mind you, I work as a 1st AC… even if you’re mostly technically minded, and interested primarily in the technical aspects of cameras, there is still a LOT more to that that Gerald doesn’t get into. Especially with these hybrid cameras, what about rigging? Where are the cage reviews? Favorite top handles? Power distribution? Cable management? 
 

Back to the S1RII, honestly my main gripe with LUMIX is their slowness to create cameras that are *physically* geared towards filmmaking. I worked pretty hard on my S1H rig, I don’t think it could get better, and it’s still awkward. I’d rather have a Pyxis. But it’s a tool like anything else, and right now, the S1H is a good tool versus the cost of jumping to something else. I don’t want to rig a new hybrid mirrorless again. 

[Walter H]

15 minutes ago, Caleb Genheimer said:

Back to the S1RII, honestly my main gripe with LUMIX is their slowness to create cameras that are *physically* geared towards filmmaking. I worked pretty hard on my S1H rig, I don’t think it could get better, and it’s still awkward. I’d rather have a Pyxis. But it’s a tool like anything else, and right now, the S1H is a good tool versus the cost of jumping to something else. I don’t want to rig a new hybrid mirrorless again. 

Which again is why I think/hope/prefer the S1Hii would not be a DSLR form-factor. People want "game changing" attributes and internal ND and fast readouts to for 8K 60P open-gate, etc. Have a body that provides the space to properly cool, to be rigged out in a streamlined way, that has the features of multi-channel, 32-bit float built-in rather than added on. 

Now if 8K is the limiter, I'd much prefer to skip it and have a 30mp sensor, focus on excellent open-gate 6K. If a slightly larger body could facilitate the better cooling required and for the electronics for 32-bit audio and internal electronic ND, sure, I'd be into it as a larger DSLR with all of the still capability and better low-light. But for a video-centric camera, why not go to a box?

[Caleb Genheimer]

30 minutes ago, Walter H said:

Which again is why I think/hope/prefer the S1Hii would not be a DSLR form-factor. People want "game changing" attributes and internal ND and fast readouts to for 8K 60P open-gate, etc. Have a body that provides the space to properly cool, to be rigged out in a streamlined way, that has the features of multi-channel, 32-bit float built-in rather than added on. 

Now if 8K is the limiter, I'd much prefer to skip it and have a 30mp sensor, focus on excellent open-gate 6K. If a slightly larger body could facilitate the better cooling required and for the electronics for 32-bit audio and internal electronic ND, sure, I'd be into it as a larger DSLR with all of the still capability and better low-light. But for a video-centric camera, why not go to a box?

Agreed. One look at cameras like the C70 gives you all the info you need to assess why “stills” shaped bodies are an awkward form factor for video once there are extensive video features involved. 

[Andrew Reid]

I rate 4K/120p as a sign of a fast readout. It's not a slow sensor in all modes. It just lacks the latest cutting edge design attributes from Sony Semiconductors to do an 8K readout at under 15ms.

So a nearly, but not quite the best sensor in the 40 megapixel range. The EOS R5 and Z8 are better and a few years older.

Panasonic are making a bit of a habit of being nearly good, and 5 years late.

BTW just watched the full Gerald meltdown.

The ending is quite illuminating... He says he's got this great money spinner of a channel and doesn't want people to pull at the yarn to unravel his enjoyment of it. The way he frames it is that the channel is a community, blah bah blah. But this is really about his job satisfaction and he's clearly had it.

In some ways I am empathetic.

I understand too how annoying people can be.

But why does it have to be about the S1R II in particular, he gets loads of other criticism on all sorts of topic.

Seems unfair on loyal Panasonic users to pin them as the attack-dog types.

Sony fanboys are far worse 🙂

[Walter H]

44 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said:

I rate 4K/120p as a sign of a fast readout. It's not a slow sensor in all modes. It just lacks the latest cutting edge design attributes from Sony Semiconductors to do an 8K readout at under 15ms.

Which is interesting when in the video linked just above the S1Rii's 4K/120 looked much worse than the FX3's when punched in. Now I've seen some very nice 4K/120 from the S1Rii so it's a bummer that these reviewers are not clearly stating what modes he is filming in beyond VLOG. We've read that by changing to pixel-to-pixel mode in 4K/120 maintains PDAF. Will there be other image quality impacts/improvements as well? 

I'm not conflating fast readout wiht image quality necessarily. Just noting things.