Panasonic Lumix S1R Mark II coming soon

[ita149]

I just tried Capture One with the files from DPreview above ISO 3200 and it shows the same smoothed out details than with LR, maybe even worse.

"It trounces the A7RV at high ISO which can't even match the A7RIII. It's cleaner than the Z8 at high ISO and the A1 too".

It seems the cheating of Panasonic works great and there is little doubt the camera is doing the same in video.

[Alt Shoo]

On 3/17/2025 at 11:53 PM, Ninpo33 said:

Nah, you missed my points big time. I kind of feel like you have an idea about things and aren’t really looking to hear or grow from other peoples experiences but just keep doubling down on your own hot takes. That’s fine. 
 

For clarification, the DP I mentioned who was well versed in post production was shooting to get exactly what he needed and not wasting time with shots or elements they weren’t going to use. The only reason he was that efficient was because he was dialed in to how to best achieve what he needed and how to use after effects so well. He wasn’t “fixing it in post”. He was “shooting for the edit” not for “excessive coverage” and wasting everyone’s time. Much like how David Fincher works if your familiar with his subtle use of VFX in narrative storytelling. 
 

And the other DP/Operator was an ass. He bought an FX6 and a barely knew how to use it but would book jobs anyway and literally be reading the manuals on breaks in between takes. He was lost, but definitely not in technical specs. 
 

When you say that pros aren’t on here talking about camera gear, how do you know? Do you know who’s on here and what they do? Also, many of the guys I’m friends with here in LA go to trade shows and meet up at companies when new products come out. They beta test stuff and talk directly to the engineers and then we all chat about it over dinner or coffee. You’re way off if you think the conversations don’t sound like how we talk here. Camera guys nerd out on camera gear, they just do it in private circles with other pros. 

Got it, I see what you’re saying about the DP shooting for the edit rather than fixing things in post. That’s a solid approach when you know exactly what you need, and I respect that.
As for pros not talking about gear, I’m not saying they never do. Of course, people in the industry test and discuss new tech, but the difference is that those conversations usually focus on how the gear serves the work, not endless debates over minor details that don’t make or break a project.

I don’t have an issue with people being passionate about cameras, I just think the discussion gets lost when it’s more about obsessing over specs than actually applying them to real world filmmaking.

[Ninpo33]

8 hours ago, Alt Shoo said:

I don’t have an issue with people being passionate about cameras, I just think the discussion gets lost when it’s more about obsessing over specs than actually applying them to real world filmmaking.

I hear that. There's always a balance and you're right that getting stuck in the theoretical is no good for anyone if it's not ever put into practical application. 

I guess for me I try to remember that there are camera specs that I don't care about but other people use those same specs daily in a high pressure environment. The S1Rii got everyone's attention because it's a true hybrid and was about a year too late. Because of that everyone was keen to really dive in and see if it was for them. Also, it's hard to achieve the high res - low noise - good DR balance so everyone is putting it under the microscope to see if it balances those things out as well as the Z8 or A1. 

[ntblowz]

On 3/19/2025 at 10:28 PM, Andrew Reid said:

Since the s5 the main issue has been the long wait for new stuff, AF behind the curve, poor lens adapter performance, and an unimaginative product line-up that neither feels or looks either high-end or creative. (Unlike, say an X-Pro3 / Sigma Fp / Z8)

Lumix S1 with the latest update seems have finally improved adapter lens performance (yes still get updated in year 2025, 6 years after release...!)

They might be late but better than never.