Best sub $1k hybrid camera setup for filming pottery (AF in Video not important)

[newfoundmass]

14 minutes ago, alsoandrew said:

Any horror stories re Lensrentals used stuff? They have the S5 for $810/730 depending on quality but they are also a rental house so a bit cautious on their quality. https://www.lensrentals.com/buy/panasonic-lumix-dc-s5

KEH is $880 https://www.keh.com/shop/panasonic-lumix-dc-s5-mirrorless-full-frame-digital-camera-body-black-24-2-m-p.html

MPB is $870 https://www.mpb.com/en-us/product/panasonic-lumix-dc-s5

Adorama is $870 https://www.adorama.com/us1914794.html

I've never bought anything from lensrentals, though I've rented from them! I found they kept their gear well maintained, but obviously when buying something from a rental house you're buying something that was heavily used and there's always a risk to that. Do you know if they have any warranty? The good thing about the other places is they give you a warranty, which is always nice. 

[mercer]

If you wait a month or two, the S5 will probably be on sale new at B&H for $999. It's hit that price a few times in the past  6 months.

[IronFilm]

10 hours ago, MrSMW said:

Looking for something more discrete for travel and galleries and museums etc, maybe better off with something like one of the cropped mirrorless bodies from Canon or Fuji or something like the A6000 range from Sony?

An XT3 would be an excellent choice and something like the XS-20 (under 1k used) would also make a good option.

Fujifilm X-M5 would be the winning for top notch image quality and maximum discreteness / compactness. 

6 hours ago, MrSMW said:

OK. Then lighting lighting lighting.

With some stage management, so mostly likely, multiple lights.

Don't forget the light you remove is just as important as the light you add! (especially these days with our very sensitive cameras)

Is why I included a few floppies and C Stands from B&H in my previous post in this thread. 

Also, bouncing a light can often be just as good / better than adding an extra light. 

6 hours ago, newfoundmass said:

I get it, but you can get fine audio from almost any mic, as long as it's close enough to the source.

I get it, but you can fine tune almost any image in post, as long as you have enough light in a shot. 

6 hours ago, newfoundmass said:

Add some tweaking in post if needed and 99% of those watching aren't gonna notice the difference between a $100 mic and $500+ mic.

99% of people watching on YT can't tell the difference between a well-shot GH2 and an ARRI Alexa. 

6 hours ago, newfoundmass said:

As long as it's not peaking, there's no hum or other noise, it will be sufficient for YouTube.

An iPhone will be a sufficient camera for YouTube. 

Every point about audio, also applies just as well to cameras 😉 

6 hours ago, MrSMW said:

How much are used Sony FX30’s?

We will have to wait for a FX30mk2 (or maaaybe a FX3mk2 might have a big enough knock on effect) before the FX30 prices will come down 😞 Because the professional range of Sonys are just in too much high demand. 

6 hours ago, MrSMW said:

Pair one of those with Sigma’s excellent and tiny 18-50mm (27-75 in FF equivalent) f2.8 and that would be a superb pairing.

Or the Tamron 17-70mm f2.8 I reckon is even nicer, slightly wider, and even more reach while staying f2.8

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1609642-REG/tamron_afb070s_700_17_70mm_f_2_8_di_iii_a.html 

4 hours ago, alsoandrew said:

Yup. That is why I am allocating half (at least) to lighting and accessories. 

Takes a lot to learn how to use them well though 

[newfoundmass]

15 minutes ago, IronFilm said:

Every point about audio, also applies just as well to cameras 😉 

But cameras are funner and this is a camera forum 😉

[eatstoomuchjam]

6 hours ago, newfoundmass said:

I've never bought anything from lensrentals, though I've rented from them! I found they kept their gear well maintained, but obviously when buying something from a rental house you're buying something that was heavily used and there's always a risk to that. Do you know if they have any warranty? The good thing about the other places is they give you a warranty, which is always nice. 

I'm not sure of the warranty, but I've bought two things from them on Black Friday (last year and the year before, they had coupons for a big discount on their already pretty-low used prices - I think like 20% or 25%).  One was a C70 and the other was a Ronin-4D 6K (which I pretty quickly upgraded to the 8K).  Both were great deals and showed up in exactly the condition I expected from the website description.

[MrSMW]

6 hours ago, IronFilm said:

Don't forget the light you remove is just as important as the light you add! (especially these days with our very sensitive cameras)

Yup, which is why I said ‘lighting’ not ‘lights’ as in ‘how scenes are lit’ whether that be indoors or out.

Flat light, hard light, side light, back light…to me, lighting is the biggest and best palette we have to play with.

Cameras etc, they are all pretty much the same in comparison!