mtol Posted yesterday at 01:24 AM Share Posted yesterday at 01:24 AM Some of the most striking news in the film world in a long time... via the Guardian: Oscar-winning Palestinian director attacked by Israeli settlers and arrested "A Palestinian director of the Oscar-winning documentary No Other Land has been arrested by the Israeli army after masked settlers attacked his house. According to five Jewish American activists who witnessed the attack, Hamdan Ballal, one of the four directors of the the film that documented the destruction of villages in the West Bank, was surrounded and attacked by a group of about 15 armed settlers in Susya in the Masafer Yatta area south of Hebron. “They started throwing stones towards Palestinians and destroyed a water tank near Hamdan’s house,” said Joseph, of the activists from the Center for Jewish Nonviolence, who asked not to use his full name for security reasons. The witnesses said that a group of soldiers arrived at the scene alongside other settlers dressed in military uniform, who chased Hamdan to his house and handed him over to the military." ... I was thinking about posting about No Other Land for some time. No Other Land is a film that I would argue is made with a kind of lucid moral courage that we don't often see in documentary and the backlash seems to suggest that cinema still holds unique power as a persuasive force. It was made by a scrappy crew with some cell phones and GH5s and a lot of courage, and it has uniformly won every award in the documentary world since its premiere, along with a perfect score on Rotten Tomatoes. There have of course been detractors from across the political spectrum. My thoughts are with Hamdan. Obviously this film was made at a huge personal cost for the filmmakers, in a way that only seems to be escalating. It speaks to the power of cinema in an interesting and contradictory way - both in limitations as a force for change and its deep ability to move people. I would encourage everyone to watch this important film. It's playing in many cinemas right now and it's one way I can think of that supports the filmmakers. It's also available for download. EDIT 1: Here is a petition for global filmmakers calling for Hamdan's release, in case anyone wants to sign: https://www.change.org/p/global-filmmakers-call-for-the-release-of-hamdan-ballal Note: I am posting this with the belief that this is a worthwhile topic for filmmakers to know about and in keeping with efforts within the forum to talk more about filmmaking as a meaningful practice and less about gear. If this devolves into a hostile and polarized discourse, I don't believe that serves anyone - and I would welcome this thread being frozen. sanveer and ade towell 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newfoundmass Posted yesterday at 03:58 AM Share Posted yesterday at 03:58 AM We're living in bleak times, unfortunately, where those who are meant to document and report on the powerful are being targeted in attempt to silence them. Demonizing them wasn't enough, sadly. mtol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ND64 Posted yesterday at 06:34 AM Share Posted yesterday at 06:34 AM With the mentally ill individuals Americans chose to be in the white house, Israel has green light to do virtually anything. With the "flood the zone" policy, who would think of a Palestinian when even American citizens are in danger of deportation to a concentration camp in El Salvador? But at the same time optics aren't good for Hollywood and global filmmakers, pun intended, if they raise their voices only when one of their own is detained, while more than 120,000 people in Gaza are displaced. I mean in Israeli prison at least, there is no risk of bombs falling from sky, and drones, and artillery fire! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted yesterday at 07:38 AM Share Posted yesterday at 07:38 AM Do remember, that "No Other Land" is packed full with lies from start to finish. It's not something you should ever for a second be looking up to and admiring. Back in 2021, this Oscar winning Pallywood star Basel Adra (from No Other Land) was filmed setting fire to Palestinian structures and telling people to shout "the Jews did it" for the cameras. They were busted red handed: https://x.com/GAZAWOOD1/status/1897363494263251107 Key facts to know: https://x.com/jonsac/status/1896689180178018400 https://x.com/GAZAWOOD1/status/1896867315544678717 https://x.com/JulietMosesNZ/status/1897511200369598729 https://x.com/JulietMosesNZ/status/1899713863509307406 ("There’s only one state in the Middle East where millions of Arabs and Jews coexist" , yet they wish to eradicate it. Unlike the Arabs, the Jews truly have No Other Land for their homeland other than Israel. btw, their film's title "No Other Land" is yet another example of something that is plagiarised from Jewish history/culture, as it's a very famous Israeli song: "Ein Li Eretz Acheret" https://www.israellycool.com/2021/04/20/ehud-manor-i-have-no-other-land/) https://www.jns.org/the-truth-about-no-other-land/ Geoff_L, ND64, mtol and 1 other 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted 23 hours ago Administrators Share Posted 23 hours ago 2 hours ago, IronFilm said: Back in 2021, this Oscar winning Pallywood star Basel Adra (from No Other Land) was filmed setting fire to Palestinian structures and telling people to shout "the Jews did it" for the cameras. They were busted red handed: https://x.com/GAZAWOOD1/status/1897363494263251107 Key facts to know: https://x.com/jonsac/status/1896689180178018400 https://x.com/GAZAWOOD1/status/1896867315544678717 https://x.com/JulietMosesNZ/status/1897511200369598729 https://x.com/JulietMosesNZ/status/1899713863509307406 ("There’s only one state in the Middle East where millions of Arabs and Jews coexist" , yet they wish to eradicate it. Unlike the Arabs, the Jews truly have No Other Land for their homeland other than Israel. btw, their film's title "No Other Land" is yet another example of something that is plagiarised from Jewish history/culture, as it's a very famous Israeli song: "Ein Li Eretz Acheret" https://www.israellycool.com/2021/04/20/ehud-manor-i-have-no-other-land/) https://www.jns.org/the-truth-about-no-other-land/ Seems like a very objective and impartial bunch of 'sources' you dug out there. newfoundmass 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxJ4380 Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago Its not hard to imagine that what Israel is doing now could unite half the world to come up against it. Neither side has any give in it and i personally don't think what Israel is doing is pleasing to God, Jesus, or the holy spirit. Both Israel and Islam are about as far away from the truth, as pluto is from the sun. Its definitely a mess over there, If i was slightly more cynical I'd say Israel was waiting for an excuse, Hammas gave them that excuse to do something about it. Make no mistake every person will one day have to answer for the stuff they have done. maybe not in this life, but there is (a day coming). Like it or not, by birthright, the land is Israel's and will always belong to Israel as its a promise from God, any Arabs living there could be quite easily argued away as squatters. Those that are living there now probably ought to be a bit more grateful. However, if you poke a bear... According to Genesis 15:18 and Joshua 1:4, the land God gave to Israel included everything from the Nile River in Egypt to Lebanon (south to north) and everything from the Mediterranean Sea to the Euphrates River (west to east). On today’s map, the land God has stated belongs to Israel includes everything modern-day Israel possesses, plus all of the territory occupied by the Palestinians (the West Bank and Gaza), plus some of Egypt and Syria, plus all of Jordan, plus some of Saudi Arabia and Iraq. Thus, Israel currently possesses only a fraction of the land God has promised; the rest of their inheritance likely awaits the return of the Messiah, Jesus Christ. God has given His word that the nation of Israel will never cease as long as the sun still shines by day and the moon and stars still shine by night (Jeremiah 31:35–37). Most people don't want to talk about Isreal, or even consider it, because one way or another it brings up a conversation or thoughts about GOD which in turn brings up a conversations about right and wrong, good and evil, and likely messes up with whatever little reality they have going. Although according to Hosea 4:6, the Lord says, “My people are destroyed from lack of knowledge. Because you have rejected knowledge, I also reject you. So with GOD at least, ignorance is not bliss. According to Eric Cline, in his book Jerusalem Besieged: From Ancient Canaan to Modern Israel, Jerusalem has been the subject of at least 118 conflicts over the years, beginning with one in 1350 BC between Abdi-Heba, the ruler of Jerusalem, and a people he called the “Habiru.” In his letter to the king of Egypt (one of the Amarna tablets), he asks for help because all of the surrounding country has been captured by the Habiru. This corresponds well with the record found in Joshua 10 and frames the beginning of Israel’s control of Jerusalem. Cline states that the city was completely destroyed at least twice, once by the Babylonians under Nebuchadnezzar (2 Kings 25:8-10) and again by the Romans under Titus in AD 70. The Mongols destroyed at least a portion of the city around AD 1260, and the Roman emperor Hadrian destroyed it in AD 135. In addition, the city was captured at least 40 times and besieged at least 23 times. There is only one more battle to worry about, in Zechariah 14 speaks of a future day when Jerusalem will be plundered by its enemies. Verse 2 prophesies that all nations will gather against Jerusalem and capture and ransack the city. Half of the citizens of Jerusalem will flee the devastation, but the other half will remain. This will be one half of the one third of the Jewish population still alive in Jerusalem after the Tribulation (13:8). Then, Zechariah says, the Lord Himself will go forth and engage these opponents in battle (14:3). Verse 4 speaks of the Messiah standing on the Mount of Olives, a hill near Jerusalem on the east. The mountain will split, creating an enormous valley. Since none of this has taken place yet, the prophecy points to a future time. We have had the likes of the Ten Commandments, Ben hur, Noah and at least 33 other biblical movies from Hollywood No movie from Hollywood has come close to realizing the level of destruction about to happen, Terrible things are about to happen to both sides like it or not. If you think i'm trying to put the fear of GOD into you, your right 😇 I am a Christian, my hope and my faith is in Jesus, not islam and not Judaism. I have to wonder, Jerusalem is still there, yet everything that has come against it is basically no more. I'm no rocket scientist but i know which side of the fence i want to be on when it happens. I suggest when not making movies you do some homework because ignorance wont be any sort of defense. Thats all i'm going to say about it on this forum. Now i'm going back to play with my new camera. jeff2626 and majoraxis 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted 22 hours ago Share Posted 22 hours ago 1 hour ago, Andrew Reid said: Seems like a very objective and impartial bunch of 'sources' you dug out there. Feel free to debate the content of the messages rather than attacking the messenger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted 21 hours ago Administrators Share Posted 21 hours ago How about you go and fuck yourself. Thread closed. mtol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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