Super Members BTM_Pix Posted yesterday at 08:56 AM Super Members Share Posted yesterday at 08:56 AM Certainly a competitor for the S5ii. Headline features : 24MP BSI full-frame CMOS sensor In-body image stabilization, rated up to 7.5EV Autofocus subject detection with support for 9 subject types 11 fps Raw w/ mechanical shutter 30fps JPEG-only mode with pre-release capture 3.69M dot 60Hz EVF with 3000-nit peak brightness 4K/30 full-width, 60p w/ 1.5x crop 10-bit N-Log or N-Raw capture Dual UHS-II card slots Downloadable color mode presets via Imaging Cloud Price is £1599 eatstoomuchjam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ND64 Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago 4k raw wouldn't need line skipping and pixel binning and so much compression that look inferior to heavily compressed h.265 if SD Express wasn't such a flop of a standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ac6000cw Posted 20 hours ago Share Posted 20 hours ago 2 hours ago, ND64 said: 4k raw wouldn't need line skipping and pixel binning and so much compression that look inferior to heavily compressed h.265 if SD Express wasn't such a flop of a standard. Nikon would doubtless say you should buy one of our more expensive cameras with a CF Express Type B card slot... This is a low-cost camera (in today's full-frame market), so I'm not surprised it's limited to UHS-II SD cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSMW Posted 19 hours ago Share Posted 19 hours ago 6 hours ago, BTM_Pix said: Price is £1599 Great value in every country in the world except the US where it will cost 17,000 US dollars. Emanuel, Thpriest, ntblowz and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newfoundmass Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago It's an aggressive entry level camera with strong video specs, I love that Nikon is coming out guns blazing! Weird though that they aren't getting a lot of the same guff Panasonic gets for using "old" sensors and for "terrible" rolling shutter. 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSMW Posted 15 hours ago Share Posted 15 hours ago 48 minutes ago, newfoundmass said: It's an aggressive entry level camera with strong video specs, I love that Nikon is coming out guns blazing! Weird though that they aren't getting a lot of the same guff Panasonic gets for using "old" sensors and for "terrible" rolling shutter. 🤔 Probably because it’s a more ‘entry level’ camera and ‘lower’ priced than the recent Lumix cameras? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Dolega Posted 15 hours ago Share Posted 15 hours ago IMX410 strikes again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago Was excited to hear about the internal raw recording in the Z5ii and then a little less excited when I watched the Gerald Undone video... and then when he started showing real world footage, he was literally wearing a Sony Alpha jacket while recording a Nikon review... why are these competing companies sending him these cameras? That said, the review was fine, raw implementation in an IBIS body, with decent AF, at this price has been a dream of mine, but it seems like there are so many gotchas that I am left bewildered why these companies even use raw? If your'e going to add NR, then what's the point of a smoothed over raw file? I shoot raw because I prefer the gritty textures that feel like you could reach into the frame and touch it. I said in the Komodo price drop thread that I wouldn't be a customer, but at the current price, maybe I'd be better off saving up for a Komodo. Theoretically, that camera could provide a viable image for the next 5-10 years for me. And with all that said, it is still exciting to see raw video to an internal SD, with these features, at this price point. When I read this post, I had already thought about posting my FP up for sale and preorder the Nikon, now I'll wait to see how it does with more serious shooters in the coming weeks/months. The FP lives to see another day. eatstoomuchjam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members BTM_Pix Posted 11 hours ago Author Super Members Share Posted 11 hours ago 29 minutes ago, mercer said: The FP lives to see another day. mercer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ND64 Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago 1 hour ago, mercer said: If your'e going to add NR, then what's the point of a smoothed over raw file? Its old school Japanese parentalism. But I think his assumption of line skipping and then NR is not accurate. Some kind of pixel binning is happening. Its not easy to downscaling 6k to 4k as half of 6k is only 3k، so conventional line skipping doesn't work in this case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eatstoomuchjam Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 4 hours ago, ND64 said: Its not easy to downscaling 6k to 4k as half of 6k is only 3k، so conventional line skipping doesn't work in this case. Half of 6K is 4K. Each dimension is 1.5x bigger. But your point is still right, I think. If line skipping skips every other row and every other column to form the image, the result would be 1/4 the resolution of the full sensor - in that case, 2.5k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago In that case, why don't these companies just do that? A 2.5k or 3k raw image from a 6K sensor would look amazing, need less storage, have better rolling shutter? Higher frame rates, and be closer to the OG Alexa resolution. Why do they have to force crappy versions just to keep the resolution higher? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted 58 minutes ago Administrators Share Posted 58 minutes ago 22 hours ago, ND64 said: 4k raw wouldn't need line skipping and pixel binning and so much compression that look inferior to heavily compressed h.265 if SD Express wasn't such a flop of a standard. It's full 6K readout in full frame 4K innit? SD UHS II is fine for 4K H.265. Even at 50Mbit it looks nice. This is a Nikon Df basically with the new flexible colour profiles. My Z8 is made in Thailand by the way so if this is the same, price could be +36% +20% after import to US. Which makes a used Nikon Df a much better option there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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