power supply extra for sony fx30

[stefanocps]

Hello i am looking for a solution to have extra power for my camera. I want to stay light and small, and of course with a couple of eyes to the wallet. Sony battery is expensive..and i am looking for something else

Thanks for help

[Snowfun]

Obviously it depends on “small” but a dummy battery to a Smallrig (I assume there are others?) Sony NP (F970 for example - Hawk Woods make decent ones) adapter is useful. It will, of course, attach directly so there is no need for a cage.

[eatstoomuchjam]

If the dummy battery cord is long enough (or if you use an extension), you can keep the dummy in a pocket while recording.  I did that once while trying to film a documentary about a friend's sled dog race in Alaska in Winter.  For the unattended camera on sticks, I put the battery in an insulated bag that I hooked to the ballast hook on the bottom of the tripod.  For the camera that was either handheld or on sticks with me, I kept the dummy battery in my jacket's internal pocket.

The documentary fell apart for any number of reasons, but at least the cameras were working throughout the limited shoot.

[MrSMW]

1 hour ago, Snowfun said:

Sony NP (F970 for example

I just went for a set of 4 including quad charger, 'Powerextra' from Amazon for just over €100 delivered.

Mine are to power my Amuran lights 'off grid' because finding a power supply and using extension cables is not always ideal.

[stefanocps]

56 minutes ago, MrSMW said:

I just went for a set of 4 including quad charger, 'Powerextra' from Amazon for just over €100 delivered.

Mine are to power my Amuran lights 'off grid' because finding a power supply and using extension cables is not always ideal.

i don't understand, you got 4 sony batteries + charger for 100?

[stefanocps]

2 hours ago, eatstoomuchjam said:

If the dummy battery cord is long enough (or if you use an extension), you can keep the dummy in a pocket while recording.  I did that once while trying to film a documentary about a friend's sled dog race in Alaska in Winter.  For the unattended camera on sticks, I put the battery in an insulated bag that I hooked to the ballast hook on the bottom of the tripod.  For the camera that was either handheld or on sticks with me, I kept the dummy battery in my jacket's internal pocket.

The documentary fell apart for any number of reasons, but at least the cameras were working throughout the limited shoot.

 i don't fancy dummy batteries..they need to leave the door open, and carrying the battery in the pocket is something i prefer to do not do

[stefanocps]

3 hours ago, Snowfun said:

Obviously it depends on “small” but a dummy battery to a Smallrig (I assume there are others?) Sony NP (F970 for example - Hawk Woods make decent ones) adapter is useful. It will, of course, attach directly so there is no need for a cage.

where do you attach it directly?don't understand

[eatstoomuchjam]

12 minutes ago, stefanocps said:

i don't fancy dummy batteries..they need to leave the door open, and carrying the battery in the pocket is something i prefer to do not do

Did Sony stop putting the little rubber gasket on their battery doors?  They used to have them just like most other camera vendors have them.  The purpose of that gasket is to allow you to run a cord for a dummy battery and still close the door.

And you don't have to put the battery in a pocket.  That's just one place.  You could put it in a backpack or hip pack.  You can also attach it to the camera in a number of ways - that'll just increase the bulk/size of the camera which is what you initially said you don't want to do (thus the suggestion that you put it on your body instead).

You really have two options available to you to power the camera:
- You use the internal battery of the camera
- You power the camera with an external source, either by USB or dummy battery (or by a DC barrel plug if the FX30 has one) and then you put that external source somewhere.

 

If you don't need to operate the battery continuously, you can certainly put a power bank in your bag and plug in the camera when not in use so that it'll recharge from the power bank.  That'll be a cheap option which leaves the camera the same size/weight when it's being used.

[MrSMW]

1 hour ago, stefanocps said:

i don't understand, you got 4 sony batteries + charger for 100?

https://www.amazon.fr/dp/B0BMFV7H9M?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title

As I stated, they are not Sony branded batteries but they are 'NP-F970'.

I never buy branded batteries for any of my gear other than the battery that comes with say a camera and never had an issue in pro use.

Actually, I lie, I had one battery for a Fuji camera once that got a bit hot and expanded so I dumped it, but otherwise, nada.

[ac6000cw]

29 minutes ago, eatstoomuchjam said:

Did Sony stop putting the little rubber gasket on their battery doors?  They used to have them just like most other camera vendors have them.  The purpose of that gasket is to allow you to run a cord for a dummy battery and still close the door.

In pictures of the bottom of the FX30, it doesn't look like it has a cable hole for a dummy battery.

AFAIK the FX30 can be powered over USB-C from a PD-capable charger or power bank (the manual states 9V at 2A is the minimum spec).

Otherwise just buy some more batteries. As MrSMW suggested, if you choose carefully (in my experience) decent 3rd-party batteries can be almost as good as the OEM ones and are normally much cheaper (but avoid the really cheap ones - they are cheap for a reason...).

[stefanocps]

1 hour ago, MrSMW said:

https://www.amazon.fr/dp/B0BMFV7H9M?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title

As I stated, they are not Sony branded batteries but they are 'NP-F970'.

I never buy branded batteries for any of my gear other than the battery that comes with say a camera and never had an issue in pro use.

Actually, I lie, I had one battery for a Fuji camera once that got a bit hot and expanded so I dumped it, but otherwise, nada.

do you use these batteries on fx30? they are big, cannot fit

[stefanocps]

47 minutes ago, ac6000cw said:

In pictures of the bottom of the FX30, it doesn't look like it has a cable hole for a dummy battery.

AFAIK the FX30 can be powered over USB-C from a PD-capable charger or power bank (the manual states 9V at 2A is the minimum spec).

Otherwise just buy some more batteries. As MrSMW suggested, if you choose carefully (in my experience) decent 3rd-party batteries can be almost as good as the OEM ones and are normally much cheaper (but avoid the really cheap ones - they are cheap for a reason...).

the problem with 3rd batteries in sony fx30 is that they are warned as not original and you loose the battery percentage indicator. May be some model would still work though..this happen after a recent firmware updat ein sony fx30..so may be that some battery producers have updated ther batteries, but i don't know which one is good

[Snowfun]

2 hours ago, stefanocps said:

where do you attach it directly?don't understand

Use the screw attachment holes on the body.

I recommend Hawk-Woods batteries because they are cheaper than Sony but are reliable. There are all sports of options but only you can decide if you trust them. I didn’t find any issue with the open battery door (sold mine because I didn’t get along with the fiddly ergonomics).

There is no magic solution - adding power to the camera will add bulk and cost! 

[stefanocps]

1 hour ago, Snowfun said:

Use the screw attachment holes on the body.

I recommend Hawk-Woods batteries because they are cheaper than Sony but are reliable. There are all sports of options but only you can decide if you trust them. I didn’t find any issue with the open battery door (sold mine because I didn’t get along with the fiddly ergonomics).

There is no magic solution - adding power to the camera will add bulk and cost! 

i don't understand what you attach to the body, the battery?are there a model with screwing option then?

best solution for me would be a couple of extra batteries, as long as i can buy them 3rd party to save som emoney. Otherwise a powerbank, a slim one could do the job without adding lots of weight/bulky and at really reasonbale price. I don't remember where i read about dummy batteries to be not really safe in fx30 though