zerocool22 Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 Hi, I really like the pyxis 12K LF. But... now with the price drop on the C500II they are almost in the same ballpark pricewise. And I am not sure why I would pick the pyxis over the c5OOii. C500II: Ibis, monitor, AF(allthough blackmagic is catching up), internal ND's. pyxis 12K lf. It's newer. Might be easier to mount on a gimbal. Have not seen any image comparisons. I love the IQ from both camera's, but have not seen any side by side by these 2 camera's. Any other input? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpfilmz Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 In the same boat. Lens Rentals has C500mk2s for sale around $4700. Love its image, I think the pyxis 12K LF has it slightly beat in dynamic range and detail…but I can’t help thinking the C500 is better value. I’m invested in canon with 2 R5Cs that I love so I’ll probably go the C500 route to not be limited by just braw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eatstoomuchjam Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 Will you be OK with only using lenses that mount to EF or PL mount? And would an integrated flip-out screen be a selling point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerocool22 Posted April 19 Author Share Posted April 19 On 4/19/2025 at 3:28 AM, eatstoomuchjam said: Will you be OK with only using lenses that mount to EF or PL mount? And would an integrated flip-out screen be a selling point? Expand EF, yes. Loads of EF options. The pyxis needs an extra monitor the c500ii does not. The limitation of only braw is also a dealbreaker. I hope they will include a different codec soon. As lots of clients dont accept braw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 On 4/18/2025 at 10:52 PM, jpfilmz said: (...) so I’ll probably go the C500 route to not be limited by just braw. Expand What's wrong with braw?! : ) 'cause your fav NLE doesn't support it yet? Otherwise, it's beyond me, like to say I need two domestic partners because to stay with just one of them is to end too limited... LOL :- ) Apples to oranges to my view IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eatstoomuchjam Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 On 4/19/2025 at 4:18 PM, Emanuel said: What's wrong with braw?! Expand On 4/19/2025 at 12:06 PM, zerocool22 said: As lots of clients dont accept braw. Expand Maybe he can give the clients your phone number and you can explain it to them? 😉 Emanuel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 On 4/19/2025 at 5:31 PM, eatstoomuchjam said: Maybe he can give the clients your phone number and you can explain it to them? 😉 Expand Well... oh clients, other professionals in the same business/craft? ; ) @CaptainHook (https://www.eoshd.com/comments/profile/34137-captainhook/) is not here anymore, maybe this helps without such need for a call ;- ) https://forum.blackmagicdesign.com/viewtopic.php?p=620814&sid=6daba22ef40403a68f15e835f55d4556#p620814 Anyway TBH, hard to tell how anyone can be indifferent to Resolve nowadays... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kye Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 You'd be mad not to wait for the 17K version. I mean, is 12K enough? Really? Emanuel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerocool22 Posted April 20 Author Share Posted April 20 On 4/20/2025 at 3:27 AM, kye said: You'd be mad not to wait for the 17K version. I mean, is 12K enough? Really? Expand The beauty is that you can shoot whatever resolution without crop. I would never shoot above 4k. But the 12k sure does have pretty colors. eatstoomuchjam, kye and Emanuel 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArashM Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 On 4/19/2025 at 4:18 PM, Emanuel said: What's wrong with braw?! : ) 'cause your fav NLE doesn't support it yet? Otherwise, it's beyond me, like to say I need two domestic partners because to stay with just one of them is to end too limited... LOL :- ) Apples to oranges to my view IMHO. Expand There is nothing wrong with Braw, one bit! however EVERY single edit house we ship footage to only accepts Prores LT or ProRes, so it would have to be a transcode, which if you have time is not an issue (but then why shoot raw and not use any of it's advantages) but in very quick turn around situations when you have to hand off a drive, Braw is not possible! These are challenges where you are part of a much bigger production, but if you are a solo shooter and cut your own work, then it's absolutely not an issue! Emanuel, zerocool22, jpfilmz and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 On 4/20/2025 at 6:54 PM, ArashM said: There is nothing wrong with Braw, one bit! however EVERY single edit house we ship footage to only accepts Prores LT or ProRes, so it would have to be a transcode, which if you have time is not an issue (but then why shoot raw and not use any of it's advantages) but in very quick turn around situations when you have to hand off a drive, Braw is not possible! These are challenges where you are part of a much bigger production, but if you are a solo shooter and cut your own work, then it's absolutely not an issue! Expand Hence my disclaimer up there on those 'clients' and word written in italics... 3rd business parties, co-workers, other professionals who have not adopted it yet, industry standards to require the hassle and yes, time, which and where a new standard can be not handy indeed. My point? That's a format to tend to end as rule of living. And mostly not necessarily part of everyone's life/work. No solution fits everything, pretty on the spot no less :- ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArashM Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 You are right, I kinda missed that. Honestly, the part I don't understand is that most editors are now on Devinci, Yet no one would entertain using B-Raw, everyone is stuck on ProRes! Emanuel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eatstoomuchjam Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 On 4/21/2025 at 12:00 AM, ArashM said: Honestly, the part I don't understand is that most editors are now on Devinci, Yet no one would entertain using B-Raw, everyone is stuck on ProRes! Expand In my experience, at least in my area, a majority of editors are still using Premiere. I'm one of the few using Resolve. zerocool22 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerocool22 Posted April 21 Author Share Posted April 21 On 4/21/2025 at 2:23 AM, eatstoomuchjam said: In my experience, at least in my area, a majority of editors are still using Premiere. I'm one of the few using Resolve. Expand Same, costed me lots of jobs as well. As often they request the premiere/Ae project files. Or they ask if I can take over an existing premiere edit. Been working in resolve for 10 years now, and stopped using adobe because of their subscription model. All in all I might have made more money, just paying for the subscriptions.. Sorry to get offtopic a bit here. eatstoomuchjam and Emanuel 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 On 4/21/2025 at 12:00 AM, ArashM said: You are right, I kinda missed that. Honestly, the part I don't understand is that most editors are now on Devinci, Yet no one would entertain using B-Raw, everyone is stuck on ProRes! Expand In fact, ProRes stands side by side with Resolve... On 4/21/2025 at 2:23 AM, eatstoomuchjam said: In my experience, at least in my area, a majority of editors are still using Premiere. I'm one of the few using Resolve. Expand Horses for courses. As many fields in a same industry or industries of similar craft or technology realm. On 4/21/2025 at 6:35 AM, zerocool22 said: Same, costed me lots of jobs as well. As often they request the premiere/Ae project files. Or they ask if I can take over an existing premiere edit. Been working in resolve for 10 years now, and stopped using adobe because of their subscription model. All in all I might have made more money, just paying for the subscriptions.. Sorry to get offtopic a bit here. Expand Their subscription model is not friendly nor up to date when we are in 2025 IMHO... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerocool22 Posted Tuesday at 06:13 PM Author Share Posted Tuesday at 06:13 PM Ok I bought the C500 mkII. Can't wait to create the first project with it. First tests the AF is so much smoother then my S5II, maybe not faster, but it feels more natural. As does the image. The dynamic range is not crazy better over an S5 or S5II it seems. The highlight rolloff seems smoother though. The internal Nd's are fun too. eatstoomuchjam, mercer and majoraxis 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eatstoomuchjam Posted Tuesday at 08:20 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 08:20 PM Nice! Looking forward to seeing what you shoot with it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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