wolf33d Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 It looks even better than A7S !!!!!And people say FF mode is almost moire clean and perfect so NO need to use APSC mode ! (APSC rolling shutter is horrible) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBounce Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 It looks even better than A7S !!!!!And people say FF mode is almost moire clean and perfect so NO need to use APSC mode ! (APSC rolling shutter is horrible)Is this right? It looks like the A7Rii has less noise than the A7S!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Kotlos Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 And people say FF mode is almost moire clean and perfect so NO need to use APSC mode ! (APSC rolling shutter is horrible)From what I got, he used the S35 mode with speedbooster for that test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRenaissanceMan Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Huh. I wonder how that latitude/noise stacks up in FF 4K mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronChicago Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Huh. I wonder how that latitude/noise stacks up in FF 4K mode. Did you download the clips from Davide? http://we.tl/xNEDXe3WIdThere is a FF Slog2 4K clip in there. TheRenaissanceMan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davide Roveri Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Hello guys!As promised here's a quick and dirty test of the various recording modes and picture profiles of the camera. Apologies for the quite crappy and changeable lighting conditions, i'll definitely do a better and more controlled test soon but at least it should give you some more indication about the camera performance..Since it's quite a long video I put some chapters in the description so it's a bit easier to navigate :-)I haven't yet had the chance of making a proper comparison with the α7S in terms of dynamic range but in my opinion it's very very close (which is quite a feat giving the resolution!). One thing is for sure, the base level of ISO800 for S-Log2 is so much easier and practical to work with than 3200! :-)I've also shot some stills yesterday and I'm quite shocked by the insane amount of detail (and latitude) you get.. put that together with the ability to use a fully electronic shutter (that apparently for the first time ever has no penalties in terms of bit depth but i'm definitely gonna test that) and you get a timelapse dream camera! Let me know if you're interested in having a look at the RAW files and will upload some of them!Thanks again for watching guys, let me know if there's something in particular you want tested and I'll do my best to do it! :-)https://youtu.be/TzwEH_b9-3w AaronChicago and Liam 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBounce Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Hello guys!As promised here's a quick and dirty test of the various recording modes and picture profiles of the camera. Apologies for the quite crappy and changeable lighting conditions, i'll definitely do a better and more controlled test soon but at least it should give you some more indication about the camera performance..Since it's quite a long video I put some chapters in the video description so it's a bit easier to navigate :-)I haven't yet had the chance of making a proper comparison with the α7S in terms of dynamic range but in my opinion it's very very close (which is quite a feat giving the resolution!). One thing is for sure, the base level of ISO800 for S-Log2 is so much easier and practical to work with than 3200! :-)I've also shot some stills yesterday and I'm quite shocked by the insane amount of detail (and latitude) you get.. together with the ability to use a fully electronic shutter (that apparently for the first time ever has no penalties in terms of bit depth but i'm definitely gonna test that) and you get a timelapse dream camera! Let me know if you're interested in having a look at the RAW files and will upload some of them!Thanks again for watching guys, let me know if there's something in particular you want tested and I'll do my best to do it! :-)https://youtu.be/TzwEH_b9-3w "silent film era" (1894–1929), please do not attempt to bring it back... That is not a review. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members Mattias Burling Posted July 31, 2015 Super Members Share Posted July 31, 2015 Hello guys!As promised here's a quick and dirty test of the various recording modes and picture profiles of the camera. Apologies for the quite crappy and changeable lighting conditions, i'll definitely do a better and more controlled test soon but at least it should give you some more indication about the camera performance..Since it's quite a long video I put some chapters in the description so it's a bit easier to navigate :-)I haven't yet had the chance of making a proper comparison with the α7S in terms of dynamic range but in my opinion it's very very close (which is quite a feat giving the resolution!). One thing is for sure, the base level of ISO800 for S-Log2 is so much easier and practical to work with than 3200! :-)I've also shot some stills yesterday and I'm quite shocked by the insane amount of detail (and latitude) you get.. put that together with the ability to use a fully electronic shutter (that apparently for the first time ever has no penalties in terms of bit depth but i'm definitely gonna test that) and you get a timelapse dream camera! Let me know if you're interested in having a look at the RAW files and will upload some of them!Thanks again for watching guys, let me know if there's something in particular you want tested and I'll do my best to do it! :-)https://youtu.be/TzwEH_b9-3wVery good job, thanks alot for taking the time Davide Roveri 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Davide Roveri Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 interesting, thanks for sharing mate! I'll try to do a low light comparison with the a7S tonight, let's see what happens! :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chris Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 interesting, thanks for sharing mate! I'll try to do a low light comparison with the a7S tonight, let's see what happens! :-)YES! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf33d Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 interesting, thanks for sharing mate! I'll try to do a low light comparison with the a7S tonight, let's see what happens! :-)Don't try, just do it ;). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted July 31, 2015 Author Administrators Share Posted July 31, 2015 Hello guys!As promised here's a quick and dirty test of the various recording modes and picture profiles of the camera. Apologies for the quite crappy and changeable lighting conditions, i'll definitely do a better and more controlled test soon but at least it should give you some more indication about the camera performance..Since it's quite a long video I put some chapters in the description so it's a bit easier to navigate :-)I haven't yet had the chance of making a proper comparison with the α7S in terms of dynamic range but in my opinion it's very very close (which is quite a feat giving the resolution!). One thing is for sure, the base level of ISO800 for S-Log2 is so much easier and practical to work with than 3200! :-)I've also shot some stills yesterday and I'm quite shocked by the insane amount of detail (and latitude) you get.. put that together with the ability to use a fully electronic shutter (that apparently for the first time ever has no penalties in terms of bit depth but i'm definitely gonna test that) and you get a timelapse dream camera! Let me know if you're interested in having a look at the RAW files and will upload some of them!Thanks again for watching guys, let me know if there's something in particular you want tested and I'll do my best to do it! :-)https://youtu.be/TzwEH_b9-3wThanks for the video Davide, great stuff. I'll feature it on the blog later! Davide Roveri 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ebrahim Saadawi Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Looks like quite apparent aliasing/moire happening with this guy, in s35 4K (and aliasing/moire is even more in FF based on Sony) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted July 31, 2015 Author Administrators Share Posted July 31, 2015 Yep, Vimeo downsampling 4K to 720p will do that!!Until he shares the original footage that test is completely bunk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBounce Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 Here's some graded and ungraded footage: Ungraded: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 Yep, Vimeo downsampling 4K to 720p will do that!!Until he shares the original footage that test is completely bunk.I've opened a new thread here to discuss these issues:http://www.eoshd.com/comments/topic/9067-aliasingmoiré-on-a7rii/ Having pre-ordered, this is one of my main concerns to pair RS. I hope you as early reviewer can pay a special attention on topics. I guess we can take his word on the subject matter. I agree with Ebrahim, this can be a deal breaker. In any case, I think Caprock can be the last 2% we need to have a clean outcome from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpb Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 i'll definitely do a better and more controlled test soon but at least it should give you some more indication about the camera performance.. Since it's quite a long video I put some chapters in the description so it's a bit easier to navigate :-)https://youtu.be/TzwEH_b9-3wThank you Davide, the beauty of your London and the Thames river lansdscape ala Canaletto will remain in our memories. It's so rare to see so well composed images attached to the tests of a new camera !!Granted, the A7rII with its multilayered Exmor sensor will be a game changer for the film industry, it deserves the first owner's tests be at such a professional level for both the image content and the metadata presentation (perfect tempo btw). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members Mattias Burling Posted August 1, 2015 Super Members Share Posted August 1, 2015 Yep, Vimeo downsampling 4K to 720p will do that!!Until he shares the original footage that test is completely bunk.Maybe on Vimeo. But on youtube my experience is actually the oposite. Viewing a video in a smaller window than its resolution in other words not full screen will do it.But viewing it converted to 720p in full screen shouldnt exaggerate the artifacts, in fact there should be less. Again this is from my tests on youtube, can't swear by Vimeo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBounce Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 Well we can expect to see people unloading their A7Ss on ebay and the prices dropping pretty soon, as it seems the A7Rii will be a more balanced camera in a smaller form factor when shooting 4k. IronFilm, Julian and Orangenz 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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