A7Rii Image stabilization and heat test

[Gregormannschaft]

When you talk about stabilization the proof is in the pudding, specs are useless. Two stabilization systems could perform better than one or worse. You must try. 

I suppose the Sony IBIS will probably be studied to work well with Sony OSS. But with Canon IS, who knows?? And if you put all of this on a gimbal, who knows?? The video posted by Gregormannschaft seems like Canon IS 24-105 a very good combination!

The 24-105 and the IBIS looks like a fantastic combo for doc work. For anything a little more creative, pairing an old vintage lens with lots of character with in-body stabilisation is really appealing to me. Wouldn't be perfect, but definitely a lot better than no IS at all.

[Mattias Burling]

The 24-105 and the IBIS looks like a fantastic combo for doc work. For anything a little more creative, pairing an old vintage lens with lots of character with in-body stabilisation is really appealing to me. Wouldn't be perfect, but definitely a lot better than no IS at all.

On the A7ii I say its really good. Would guess its similar on the A7rii.

[Gregormannschaft]

If the camera really tends to overheat, its a no-go as A Cam for paid work I am afraid. 

Kind of a deal breaker for docs as well. 

[TheRenaissanceMan]

Kind of a deal breaker for docs as well. 

Battery life is probably shit as well, especially compared to the GH4, NX1, C100, and even the D750.

[jcs]

Perhaps there are patent issues preventing Sony from getting good, natural and pleasing skin tones straight from the camera? 4K, IBIS, decent DR are nice however we won't be buying any more cameras that don't at least match Canon 5D3 (H.264 or RAW) or Nikon (D810 etc.) skin tone color science (even BM is looking pretty good compared to Sony). Color for skin tones is #1 for a camera, above all other specs (unless doing landscape/product perhaps, though even there the color must be color-chart accurate).

[TheRenaissanceMan]

Perhaps there are patent issues preventing Sony from getting good, natural and pleasing skin tones straight from the camera?

People not knowing how to hit "buy" on a set of LUTs? Or, on the higher end, not hiring a colorist?

[jcs]

People not knowing how to hit "buy" on a set of LUTs? Or, on the higher end, not hiring a colorist?

Hobbyists benefit from accurate and pleasing skin tone color by not having to deal with LUTs, which are very specialized and only work as intended with a known input color space and proper levels.

For professional paid work, we don't want to waste time color correcting inaccurate+unpleasing colors from the camera. Time is money. Also very important is showing clients straight-from-camera footage. For pleasing skintones, Sony looks comparatively terrible compared to Canon, Nikon, BM, even Panasonic. It's really puzzling since the F35 and F65 look so amazing (but not the F55, F5, FS7, FS700, A7 series and so on). In controlled situations, the F55 (even FS7) can look very close to the Alexa using LUTs, however in practice folks still choose Alexa over F55 etc. if they have a choice.

At the high end the ARRI cameras (Alexa, Amira) have class-leading accurate and pleasing skintones, so hiring a colorist isn't needed. For episodic TV, fast high quality production is very important. For film production, colorists are hired to help set the mood and tell the story, not so much to fix broken color from market trailing color science cameras (which won't be used very often except perhaps as crash cams or other limited-use specialized applications).

Since Sony works closely with Nikon, why not license Nikon's color science for these cameras? Perhaps that's a question for Nikon ;). Color science is the most valuable element of a digital camera.