wolf33d Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 The new pilotfly H1+ is out with dual 32bit IMU. I think this is a game changer. Put your A7RII, RX100IV or D5500 on it and you get pro stabilized footage. Lots of creative possibilities (hyperlapse, fast movement while shooting in slowmo, ...)What do you guys think? IronFilm and Sekhar 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dugdale Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 I just tried it with the a7Rii with IBIS turned on, looking at the footage I feel like a professional now. JazzBox, Mattias Burling and IronFilm 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBounce Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 I just tried it with the a7Rii with IBIS turned on, looking at the footage I feel like a professional now. Really? That good... Can't wait to see your review. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricardo_sousa11 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 It looks quite amazing, seems like and compact...this is the first stabilizer im actually considering...the price is quite attractive as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Tecno Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 This product has for me a big drawback. It only works for very light cameras+lenses. My nx1 with 16-50s is already too heavy. Not to mention the 50-150 lens!! IronFilm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf33d Posted August 24, 2015 Author Share Posted August 24, 2015 Big drawback ? Man this product takes 1.2kg, this is huge. It is a small portable gimbal. It is like saying my gopro gimbal has a big drawback, it does not take a 1DC.... You want heavy things? Get a Dji Ronin M. Or use prime. A7RII + 28mm is perfect for instance. Dugdale can you post some footages with A7RII? IronFilm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf33d Posted August 24, 2015 Author Share Posted August 24, 2015 impressive. With RX100IV, looks even better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinegain Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Yeah, I had already posted a bit about this over here: http://www.eoshd.com/comments/topic/3293-3-axis-camera-stabilizing-systems-–-overview/?do=findComment&comment=99388 .Definitly keep up with them over at their Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/pilotflytech and YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/Yanherlin/videos .Encoders on these things seem the next evolution to really take it to pick-up and go. And with great in-body stabilization playing its part, it seems we've come a long way from tweaking around with the Nebula 4000. But I liked Dave's argument to still go with the H1+ over the one with the encoders. Light and low profile. Can't shake the feeling however that I like the footage from the 8-bit H1 better than the 32-bit H1+ for some reason... more organic/flowy. As I can wait, I'll hold of on buying a pistol grip gimbal stabilizer for now. I hope the A6100/A7000 will make an appearance soon and I hope it as well features in-body stabilization. That would be wicked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Tecno Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Wolf, ok I get your point but nx1 is a mirrorless camera. Perhaps the heaviest one arount at about 600gr, and with the smallest s lens it goes to 1300gr, which is already more than the h1+ can hold. If they did it at 1500-1600gr, I would buy it in a heartbit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neosushi Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Is it just me or does anyone els feels like the "bouncing" feel is a dealbreaker ? This motion that goes up & down while you walk is kind of really weird and unnatural :/ Cinegain, bamigoreng, Sekhar and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinegain Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Totally with you on that one. It's heading in the right direction, but I think you can still see the sensing -> processing -> adjusting back in the footage. It seems a little too corrected and not yet as organic and flowy as I'd like (and have seen before with the 8-bit H1) which is why, quote: I'll hold of on buying a pistol grip gimbal stabilizer for now. Have seen a couple of projects working on 4 axis stabilizers, to counteract the bouncing, but didn't seem more than some prototypes turning into abandoned concepts. My comment on a DrewNetwork video several months ago:3-axis is nice, but there needs to be another axis that controls the up and down motion, dampen that. I saw several projects, but they all seem dead. 'Cause basicly one would need that in order not having to get the walk down rather perfectly by tons of practice/it to be idiotproof. Think best is to wait it out. Like you said, perhaps Q1 everybody will be over this, but like the MOVI, there's a lot of companies coming up with their own spin on it and charging less! I bet one of 'em will get 4-axis down and since I'm an idiot, with no time and patience, that will be the thing for me! For now I think the pistolgrip is kind of subjected to a lot of up and down motion? I saw someone putting it on a fig rig which seemed to kinda make sense to get it a little more stable. But then again, you could just get a MOVI type device (Cheesycam is working on his own thing, with a joystick and everything)... we'll see what the new year brings, but I bet somebody will get it right. neosushi 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dearborn Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 The pilotfly h1+ looks really impressive. Wish it had replaceable batteries. The Came Single is suppose to get 10 hours per battery set vs the 1.75hr of the pilotfly. Not great for long hikes or camping trips. Anyone know how the external power is suppose to work? On the pilotfly site it looks like another internal battery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volts Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Hi I've just used the H1+ with rx100m4 at a wedding. This combo is quite impressive. Basically shooting at 100fps Full HD while gliding. Quality of the footage is superb when slowed down 25% in post. Also have A7II and A7S but chose the RX100 to be on the H1+. The up and down is less noticeable on the RX100 due to it's weight. Definitely notice it on the A7 bodies. You basically need to develop a walking technique when using heavier bodies, just like the traditional Glidecams. Not so much with the RX100. The combo is quite compact and very light which is why i chose it over other pistol grip gimbals (thanks to Dave's review). Design could definitely improve, like having a hook/clip so you can strap it and carry it along when you have a monopod / A7II with you. Handle could have been designed so it has a hinge at the motor junction so you can fold to carry easier. replaceable internal batteries, and maybe arms that lock when not in use. I had a 9 hour wedding shoot, with 2 external batteries and it lasted me the whole time (not shooting full time on the H1 though).Dearborn the external battery plugs in to the charger port of the H1+'s handle, that then acts as the power supply. You have to obviously cary it with you, so I just secured it to the bottom of the handle where I have screwed a manfrotto QR plate. unsightly but works fine.might post some footage of the the slow motion on the H1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m~Daniel Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Also got the H1+ ... just an awesome tool, I hardly use a tripod any longer. Btw... it works with the NX1 + the 16-50 S lens. Battery life suffers a little bit but it does work, but I prefer to use the small pancakes on the NX1 when using the gimbal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xavier Plagaro Mussard Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 You get full stabilised shots, so some "bouncing", probably due to poor walking technique, is more than acceptable. The OIS on lens or some stabilisation in post probably correct it 100%. I still haven't buyed anything but I am searching. Buying in Europe is a PITA.The H1+ would probably prefer a NX500 to a NX1! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neosushi Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 You get full stabilised shots, so some "bouncing", probably due to poor walking technique, is more than acceptable. The OIS on lens or some stabilisation in post probably correct it 100%. I still haven't buyed anything but I am searching. Buying in Europe is a PITA.The H1+ would probably prefer a NX500 to a NX1!thanks : ) ill be waiting to see a bit more of these "corrected" footage before buying anything :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Thumb control for orientation of the camera? Like the came single Edit: ah only one axis of the camera at a time:http://cheesycam.com/came-tv-came-single-pilotfly-h1-nebula-4000-comparisons/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m~Daniel Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Buying in Europe is a PITAYou can buy it here: http://pilotfly.de/ - I ordered mine from the german shop - no problems at all. Xavier Plagaro Mussard 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandro Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 I bet it can't handle the NX1+ Tokina 11-16... it's a heavy set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf33d Posted August 25, 2015 Author Share Posted August 25, 2015 Wolf, ok I get your point but nx1 is a mirrorless camera. Perhaps the heaviest one arount at about 600gr, and with the smallest s lens it goes to 1300gr, which is already more than the h1+ can hold. If they did it at 1500-1600gr, I would buy it in a heartbit.Use the samsung 16mm pancake, 72gr. Or the 20-50mm, 119gr. Will work perfectly fine. No need to have a big zoom on a gimbal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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