Guess the camera

[Liam]

Mobile phone with Cinema4K

that's impossible

[cantsin]

Well, something shot with overly fast shutter and the M31 teal-orange grading LUT applied in post, cropped to 1:2.35 aspect ratio, at least MFT size sensor given the shallow depth of field, and 4K resolution. That pretty much leaves the GH4/G8, Blackmagic 4k, Samsung NX1 and Sony A7rII (or Sony A7s with external recorder). My guess is that it's an 8bit camera, so GH4 (internal codec)/G8, NX1 or Sony.

[Volker Schmidt]

James Miller DELUT!:)

[bunk]

that's impossible

It's called Video-Camera blind test, you're not supposed to peak!

[Liam]

It's called Video-Camera blind test, you're not supposed to peak!

But I diiiiiiidnnnn't  no, the depth of field and focal length seem to show it can't be a smart phone. Not to step on toes, I figure this can be a bit of a discussion

[Volker Schmidt]

NX1 with a Miller DELUT

[neosushi]

So it's not a Miller Delut - it's the M31 visioncolor + filmconvert.

The lens used is a 50mm Leica M Summilux.

And I'm really impressed by some of you, in different ways : ) 

Also, its not a smartphone : ) Maybe the fact that the focus is slightly off could misguide you ; )

 

[cantsin]

Then it must be an NX1 since the focal length seems to be in the moderate tele/portrait range, which at 50mm would mean that it's an APS-C sensor. (And since it's an M mount Leica, the camera must be mirrorless.) That just leaves the NX1 as currently the only APS-C mirrorless camera that records 4K video.

EDIT: No, wrong, it seems that Leica M can't be adapted to NX, so that only leaves the GH4 - and a hell of a job to keep that tele length stable when shooting without a tripod.

[Liam]

Then it must be an NX1 since the focal length seems to be in the moderate tele/portrait range, which at 50mm would mean that it's an APS-C sensor. (And since it's an M mount Leica, the camera must be mirrorless.) That just leaves the NX1 as currently the only APS-C mirrorless camera that records 4K video.

EDIT: No, wrong, it seems that Leica M can't be adapted to NX, so that only leaves the GH4 - and a hell of a job to keep that tele length stable when shooting without a tripod.

crop mode on a7s or rii would fit the bill too then right?

[TheRenaissanceMan]

The color is too processed to tell the manufacturer, but DoF looks to be at least APS-C. Skin tones are actually pretty healthy-looking and the image has great, poppy detail. Not a lot of DR in the highlights, but colors roll off in saturation as they approach clip. I'm going to guess NX1 again, with a longish lens.

[hmcindie]

Well, if you had marked the frame with in- and out-points in the timeline and used Premiere's export function to render directly to a TIFF, you would have had a much better quality image. (The video preview image in any NLE always sacrifices quality in favor of quick rendering.)

Yeah nope. The preview image is pretty much the same as an exported TIFF, as long as the resolution is the same (100%).

[neosushi]

Then it must be an NX1 since the focal length seems to be in the moderate tele/portrait range, which at 50mm would mean that it's an APS-C sensor. (And since it's an M mount Leica, the camera must be mirrorless.) That just leaves the NX1 as currently the only APS-C mirrorless camera that records 4K video.

EDIT: No, wrong, it seems that Leica M can't be adapted to NX, so that only leaves the GH4 - and a hell of a job to keep that tele length stable when shooting without a tripod.

Well actually your answer is correct : ) Because we did manage to make a Leica M lens fit on the samsung (did required to get rid of some plastic near the sensor though, and using a homemade adaptor - not made by us). 

 

The color is too processed to tell the manufacturer, but DoF looks to be at least APS-C. Skin tones are actually pretty healthy-looking and the image has great, poppy detail. Not a lot of DR in the highlights, but colors roll off in saturation as they approach clip. I'm going to guess NX1 again, with a longish lens.

Hey TheRenaissanceMan: that was kind of the point about the colors : ) so thanks for noticing. I have to say I'm not confident I could reach this kind of color + skin tones with a GH4 though. Lens used is a 50mm Leica M Summilux : )

So yes it is a NX1, in 4K UHD mode - used a M31 Lut, and filmconvert (from 1DC not - log profile). I used filmconvert that way cause I think that the M31 is supposed to give you some "Canon-like" colors. Works moderately ok for me : ) 

[Marco Tecno]

Very nice look. What were your ooc settings?

[neosushi]

Very nice look. What were your ooc settings?

Thanks Marco, I think it was Gamma DR mode, with contrast -2, sharpness -10, saturation -1 / 0 can't remember... 

Shutter speed was all over the place cause we didn't have any ND filter. 

[Gregormannschaft]

I'm noticing a pattern. 

[austinchimp]

Well actually your answer is correct : ) Because we did manage to make a Leica M lens fit on the samsung (did required to get rid of some plastic near the sensor though, and using a homemade adaptor - not made by us). 

 

Hey TheRenaissanceMan: that was kind of the point about the colors : ) so thanks for noticing. I have to say I'm not confident I could reach this kind of color + skin tones with a GH4 though. Lens used is a 50mm Leica M Summilux : )

So yes it is a NX1, in 4K UHD mode - used a M31 Lut, and filmconvert (from 1DC not - log profile). I used filmconvert that way cause I think that the M31 is supposed to give you some "Canon-like" colors. Works moderately ok for me : ) 

I'm actually more interested in your post stabilization software. It seems to do a really good job with some quite shaky footage. What did you use?

[neosushi]

I'm actually more interested in your post stabilization software. It seems to do a really good job with some quite shaky footage. What did you use?

Premiere Pro warp stabilzer  - I was also quite impressed with the result too !

[Liam]

any issues with the new mount? that's pretty impressive @neosushi. infinity is still infinity, etc?

[neosushi]

No major issues so far, and I can still switch back to the former mount without too many manipulations. However the flange distance (I think its how its called) is quite short, so we cant fit our Leica 35mm. 

We're not done experimenting though : )

[Mattias Burling]

I also wanted to play
So I went with two cameras.