myJTP Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 @myJTP I would not wait on Canon for anything Those guys are not really addressing the 4k market at all and I bet its still a while before any 4k dslr at all. They will not put in a dslr before the C100 mark II and that is not even a year old yet. I think get a gh4 is a huge vaule for what it offers and then add vlog to that... damn this is monster of a camera for under 1500 bucks with vlog or get one used and its even cheaper. Any word on which metabones adapter to use? Atomos just came out with a Ninja Assassin – New 4K HDMI Recorder for $1,295 it does 10Bit 4:2:2 will that pair up nicely with the GH4? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonpais Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Use the XL 0.64. It is sharp as a tack with the Sigma 18-35mm, and offers a touch more FOV than the ULTRA 0.71. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanveer Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 I meant internally. The price of a 4k recorder is a significant further investment to match\beat the competition. If they can output 10 bit, i dont see why they cant record it.Actually recording 10 bit 4k woud require some serious processing power, superb write speeds and may even cause serious heating issues. Plus the GH4 records in the vicinity of 4 hours. 4k at 10bit might cause some serious explosion I am guessing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiodc Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Fantastic. Just pre-ordered it myself. Can't wait to try it out, even if it means I need to put a PIX-E5 on order too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronChicago Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 When will Atomos make a 4k Ninja Star? sanveer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanveer Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 When will Atomos make a 4k Ninja Star?wow. I thought the same thing.Actually since the BlackMagic Video assist won't be appearing any time soon, they should upgrade the Internal recording to 4k ProRes and add another $300 to the price tag. Hehehe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorgelibra Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Any word on which metabones adapter to use? Atomos just came out with a Ninja Assassin – New 4K HDMI Recorder for $1,295 it does 10Bit 4:2:2 will that pair up nicely with the GH4?The XL 0.64 works just fantastic with my GH4. I tested it with Sigma 18-35 f1.8, Canon 50 f1.4 and Canon 70-200L II with no issues at all. Very good investment!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 So just in case anybody was wondering. I just tried to order the V-log from the Panasonic website. I chatted with a representative and the lady said that the VLOG update can be bought and applied to GH4s even if they were bought from outside the United States. HOWEVER, you cannot buy the VLOG from overseas, even if you have a US mailing address and credit card. The website does not allow purchases made from overseas at all. Here's the transcript of my whole chat.Jessica: Hello! I am a Panasonic Product Specialist. How may I assist you today?You: Hello, I'm wondering if i purchased my GH4 when i was in vacation in Asia, am i still able to buy the VLOG update and apply it to my camera here?Jessica: Thank you for visiting Panasonic today! It would be my pleasure to provide you with information about the GH4 Vlog update.Jessica: You can purchase both of them here, since you do not ship to Asia.Jessica: Also, the Vlog may not be available in any stores in Asia, so the best place you can purchase it is here in the website.You: Ok i see. So i should be able to use the code on my camera even though i bought it in asia.You: the camera i mean i bought in asiaJessica: Yes, that would be okay.You: Great! Thank youJessica: The Vlog update only costs $99.99, before taxes! We provide FREE Shipping if we place the order today, too!Jessica: Let's go ahead and add it to your cart! Do you have any other questions before we proceed with the order process?You: I'm good thank you! I can take things form here!Jessica: To help speed things along, please let me stay with you throughout your purchase, that way we can ensure you complete the order successfully.Jessica: Let me send you the link here in our chat where you can download the online manual for your product.Jessica: You can Click Here to add the VLOG update to your cart.Jessica: In your cart, you’ll see the items added during your visit today. The quantity, price per unit, and total price will be listed, along with the shipping times and any discounts applied to your order.Jessica: When you’re ready to continue, please select the checkout option at the bottom right that you’d prefer. You can check out with PayPayl, or press ‘Checkout’ to continue along the standard checkout process.You: Ok got it Jessica: When you’re ready, you can press ‘Place order’ to complete your purchase.You: oh it said there was a payment processing errorJessica: May I know the exact error message?You: It just said "There was a payment processing error. Please contact Customer Service at 1-800-405-0652."Jessica: I am sorry to hear that. May I know from what country are we trying to do the order?You: I'm in thailand right nowYou: but all my credit card and address are from the statesJessica: You are shipping it to US, right? Is your credit card issued in the US?You: YesJessica: Do you have a PayPal account connected to that credit card?You: No not yetJessica: I am sorry but there seems to be problems when the order is being placed overseas. I would advise that you call in to the number.You: I see ok no problem. I can get my sister in the states to order for meYou: Thank you for your helpJessica: Were there any additional questions that I may assist you with today?You: I'm good. thank you again!Jessica: Should you have any questions in the future, please feel free to chat with us again!Jessica: Thank you for visiting Panasonic.com. Mat Mayer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzynormal Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Jessica: I am sorry but there seems to be problems when the order is being placed overseas.Use an IP proxy from the U.S. and it should go through, I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattH Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Actually recording 10 bit 4k woud require some serious processing power, superb write speeds and may even cause serious heating issues. Plus the GH4 records in the vicinity of 4 hours. 4k at 10bit might cause some serious explosion I am guessing. Processing power OR write speeds. Its already debayered, converted to YCbCr and chroma subsampled. It could merely record that data if it had the write speeds. Or, true, processing power would be needed to compress. Maybe the GH4 can't do it, but it isn't beyond the realm of posibility. I was just going to say that the Canon XC10 manages it, but apparantly its only 8bit, so maybe its more difficult than I thought after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Use an IP proxy from the U.S. and it should go through, I think.Oh cool, yeah didn't think of that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resso Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 So, in EU, only GH4R is unlimited and old GH4 with fw 2.3 is still limited to 29mins...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattH Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 How the transcript should have read: Jessica: The Vlog update only costs $99.99, before taxes! We provide FREE Shipping if we place the order today, too!You: Ok cool, it that next day delivery or is that extra, will fed-ex be delivering my FIRMWARE UPGRADE? Will it come on CD-rom or floppy disk?Jessica: Let's go ahead and add it to your cart! Do you have any other questions before we proceed with the order process?You: Yes, I have a question. what makes you so arrogant as to assume I will need and accept your assistance?Jessica: To help speed things along, please let me stay with you throughout your purchase, that way we can ensure you complete the order successfully.You: No! good day sir!You: It just said "There was a payment processing error. Please contact Customer Service at 1-800-405-0652."Jessica: I am sorry to hear that. May I know from what country are we trying to do the order?You: I'm in thailand right nowYou: but all my credit card and address are from the statesJessica: You are shipping it to US, right? Is your credit card issued in the US?You: I just told you I am in thailand, why would I be shipping it to the US? And Its a firmware upgrade. That means sofware. No shipping is involved you dumb bitch!Jessica: Thank you for visiting Panasonic.com. Nate and Mat Mayer 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dearborn Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 You need to cool down. Customer service folks are doing their job and being friendly when a lot of people might not be. They don't make Panasonic's decisions. Just be happy the firmware is being released and is reasonable for people to afford. Peace TheRenaissanceMan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattH Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 You need to cool down. Customer service folks are doing their job and being friendly when a lot of people might not be. They don't make Panasonic's decisions. Just be happy the firmware is being released and is reasonable for people to afford. PeacePahahahahaa! what a joyous personality! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwijip Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Stuff Vlog, I need HDMI out for Anamorphic mode Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted September 1, 2015 Administrators Share Posted September 1, 2015 Panasonic didn't go all the way with the anamorphic or V-LOG updates.I am sure they are holding back liveview anamorphic desqueeze and LOG view assist for the GH5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stab Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Good news. I guess it wouldn't work with a GH3? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntblowz Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 If they can add v-log upgrade to other Panasonic camera it would be the even more awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astro Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 An interesting post from Illya FreedmanFor the record, 8-Bits can absolutely be enough for log space.What matters most is the quality of your bits, and what you attempt to make those bits do.Here's the thing, and this is absolutely something you won't hear from anyone else, V-Log-L on the GH4 is not the last significant update for the GH4! There's about 3x people outside of Panasonic that actually knows how much power is lurking under that hood.I have no idea if future updates will be contingent on this upgrade, but this camera is already producing more apparent resolution that several top end cameras made just for cinema. I projected a scientific test on a Christie 4K projector on a 25' screen in February 2014 which proved this. Now with V-Log-L, the humble GH4 just overtook the DR of several "professional" cameras costing many thousands more. nahua, IronFilm and TheRenaissanceMan 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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