Oliver Daniel Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 It's good sign that production is ramping up. I'm still expecting to receive my URSA Mini 4.6k with cobwebs on my head though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axéfilm Cinematografia Indipendente Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 I thought the URSA 4k only had 12 stops DR, and the 4.6k had 14. I could be dead wrong.you right! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregormannschaft Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 The 4.6k is a little outta my price range, but the 4K version at around 3,000 euros is very tempting. Probably about 4,200 euros with the add ons, but still, great value - potentially. 1tkman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graphicnatured Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 You guys have probably already seen this, but WOW. Looks fantastic. One shot with moire is curious, but other than that I'm super impressed. https://vimeo.com/139130557 abds69 and 1tkman 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abds69 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 +1the 4K sensor in ursa mini is far from the one in BMPCC4K, and it's recorded only in full HD.with canon L lenses. on the other side the video with 4.6K seems a bit washed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 on the other side the video with 4.6K seems a bit washed.? 1tkman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRenaissanceMan Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 +1the 4K sensor in ursa mini is far from the one in BMPCC4K, and it's recorded only in full HD.with canon L lenses. on the other side the video with 4.6K seems a bit washed.Captain Hook said on the BMC User forum that he intentionally graded it a bit low-contrast to show off the camera's DR. I'm pumped to see more samples! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1tkman Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 You guys have probably already seen this, but WOW. Looks fantastic. One shot with moire is curious, but other than that I'm super impressed. https://vimeo.com/139130557Thanks for posting the link. I am not sure how to properly describe, but to me, the footage seems unique and rich. Like it was baked in with a slower shutter speed or something. I find it impressive also. The nationality, the skin tones, of the subjects captured seems ideal for this early example. TheRenaissanceMan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRenaissanceMan Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Thanks for posting the link. I am not sure how to properly describe, but to me, the footage seems unique and rich. Like it was baked in with a slower shutter speed or something. I find it impressive also. The nationality, the skin tones, of the subjects captured seems ideal for this early example. Agreed. Blackmagic was smart to use those guys as beta testers/sample footage creators. Besides a bit of moire on the groom's jacket at 1:10, I see nothing to complain about, even in the darker scenes. That surprised me, since most people complain about the BMPC sensor being unusable in low light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abds69 Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Yeah but the question is , where come from the 4K ursa mini sensor ?. BMPCC or new one ? Perhaps they worked on electronic image treatment from inside with old sensor ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turboguard Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Yeah but the question is , where come from the 4K ursa mini sensor ?. BMPCC or new one ? Perhaps they worked on electronic image treatment from inside with old sensor ?Well, it being a S35 sensor and BMPCC using a S16, I'd rather believe it's the first URSA 4K sensor being reused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Agreed. Blackmagic was smart to use those guys as beta testers/sample footage creators. Besides a bit of moire on the groom's jacket at 1:10, I see nothing to complain about, even in the darker scenes. That surprised me, since most people complain about the BMPC sensor being unusable in low light. In fact. But, let's not forget it is 1080/60p... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRenaissanceMan Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 In fact. But, let's not forget it is 1080/60p...I don't understand. You think that contributed to the moire? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abds69 Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Sorry i was asking about Blackmagic Production camera 4K sensor filiation ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRenaissanceMan Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Sorry i was asking about Blackmagic Production camera 4K sensor filiation ?It should be the exact same sensor as the Blackmagic Production Camera, but with a better cooling system and a beefier processor (for higher frame rates). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 In fact. But, let's not forget it is 1080/60p...Well, the sensor is somehow much larger than 1080p and we are used to see lots of artifacts with slow motion footage coming from DSLRs and mirrorless cameras. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
levisdavis Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 The Ursa Mini 4K is using the V2 sensor that is from the Ursa 4K not the BMPC. That's why there's 60fps in 4k and significantly less FPN. Also, the moire is most likely related to the fact that they shot using a Sigma 18 - 35. That lens is capable of resolving somewhere around 25 - 30 MP. That resolution is far beyond the 8.3 on the Ursa Mini. It's best to always use filtration with a lens that is that sharp.I too was surprised how good the sensor was in low light. 60fps in a club scene on a BM global shutter? That's amazing. 1tkman and TheRenaissanceMan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtomAnt Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 Nonsense! The Ursa Mini has Not shipped. Some guys that work for BM managed to get their hands on two to shoot the wedding video. I've looked everywhere and no one has received these yet. Please check you facts before posting false news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members Mattias Burling Posted October 13, 2015 Super Members Share Posted October 13, 2015 Nonsense! The Ursa Mini has Not shipped. Some guys that work for BM managed to get their hands on two to shoot the wedding video. I've looked everywhere and no one has received these yet. Please check you facts before posting false news. But you decided to bump an almost 1 month old thread about it shipping because..... Turboguard and User 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members Mattias Burling Posted October 14, 2015 Super Members Share Posted October 14, 2015 Blackmagic really need to learn the trade secret of "under-promise, over-deliver." They've made a bad habit of doing just the opposite. IMO, its the consumers that need to learn how it works.They have done it 4 years in a row.But still we have these never ending amount of posts and threads, "When?", "Im angry!", "If its not here by..", bla bla blaIt will ship when its done and all there is to do is wait or buy something else. Bumping or starting threads like this wont make shipp any faster or make Blackmagic change their way.Its the price we pay for the best image produced by a CMOS in the world Volker Schmidt and IronFilm 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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