dr_jon Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 I've seen 3rd party VLog LUTs for the GH4, where did the official one come from? (Do you mean the Varicam35 one, it's just you said GH4-specific?)Since it's completely out of the bag as of Erik's post here's the reddit link where they talk about the zebras (plus how to enable it):https://www.reddit.com/r/Filmmakers/comments/3l1qab/panasonic_gh4_vlogl_available_for_free_just/ Lintelfilm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTRT Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 some footage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRhzxH4mqig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lintelfilm Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 some footage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRhzxH4mqigThere's some horrible banding/colour artefacts going on in that video (as with my graded image on previous page). I'm going to make an early call and say V-Log is a ProRes friendly profile that's a danger zone for internal shooting. iamoui and Orangenz 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTRT Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 There's some horrible banding/colour artefacts going on in that video (as with my graded image on previous page). I'm going to make an early call and say V-Log is a ProRes friendly profile that's a danger zone for internal shooting. I am going to shoot a bunch of stuff tomorrow and see what I can see... I shot a few minutes earlier, just a few, then used the v-log to 709 LUT and it wasn't absurdly noisy, or artefact-y, and the colours looked really amazing... But I'm sure this will all wash out one way or the other in a few days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Yeah I heard vlog is meant to be used only at iso 400, and with log and an already noisy camera, exposing properly is very important too. Have seen great stuff from it though. keep trying it out and posting more, because I have nothing else going on in my life CTRT 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graphicnatured Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 From my quick test it appears I need to really ETTR. Perhaps this will also help with everyone's noise? I did a quick shot of my parrot since nobody else is here and I look like hell. ;-) BTW, this wasn't exposed to the right so it appeared really dark when I tried Cineon Converter. AaronChicago, does your footage appear dark when you add Cineon, or are my defaults out of whack? Liam and AaronChicago 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aragonnarun Posted September 16, 2015 Author Share Posted September 16, 2015 Wow so many comments and posts about how to do it after a night's sleep. I feel like I released the monster out of the cage.. But see, my hint is much more useful than Apples hint for the 6S, isn't it? CTRT and Zak Forsman 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronChicago Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Putting together an edit of V Log clips from downtown Chicago. Here are some stills till I can finish. I tried finding scenes with extreme DR (alot of shadows, and sunlight). Cinegain, ntblowz, Flynn and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntblowz Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 They took firmware down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassius McGowan Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 For the people that are asking about the noise and everything here's a link where someone is talking about needing to expose the footage correctly by putting your 18% gray at 42 IRE. If that helps.Link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronChicago Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 From my quick test it appears I need to really ETTR. Perhaps this will also help with everyone's noise? I did a quick shot of my parrot since nobody else is here and I look like hell. ;-) BTW, this wasn't exposed to the right so it appeared really dark when I tried Cineon Converter. AaronChicago, does your footage appear dark when you add Cineon, or are my defaults out of whack?hey, it shouldn't be too dark. It does need some contrast and saturation added though. If it is too dark maybe bump the exposure up a stop or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassius McGowan Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 hey, it shouldn't be too dark. It does need some contrast and saturation added though. If it is too dark maybe bump the exposure up a stop or two.Person on reddit said to over expose half a stop/stop and it will do wonders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graphicnatured Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 hey, it shouldn't be too dark. It does need some contrast and saturation added though. If it is too dark maybe bump the exposure up a stop or two.Yeah, I didn't do much but quick and dirty exposure boost and a little saturation.Person on reddit said to over expose half a stop/stop and it will do wonders.Yeah, this is what I'm thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Caudullo Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 If you had a NX1 you would definitely not understand why you should pay for any software upgrade well let's be honest, this thread is encouraging it I have an NX1 and love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRenaissanceMan Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Putting together an edit of V Log clips from downtown Chicago. Here are some stills till I can finish. I tried finding scenes with extreme DR (alot of shadows, and sunlight). These look terrific! How did you grade? AaronChicago 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightlightlight Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Anyone have a live link to 2.3? Need it and panasonic dropped it. I did buy vlog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRenaissanceMan Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Anyone have a live link to 2.3? Need it and panasonic dropped it. I did buy vlog. They should have it back up within a day or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntblowz Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 https://www.dropbox.com/s/5p9wze495zdgk1x/GH4__V23.zip?dl=0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Davis Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 So... first impressions.V-Log is pretty underwhelming to say the least. I don't know if anyone's experience was different than mine, but I'll lay it out there.V-Log in 1080p is unusable IMO. No matter how you do it, it's got a ton of noise and banding. A very undesirable image.V-Log in UHD/4k is good. While I can still see noise and banding, it is spread out better (likely due to the increase of pixels) to the point where it is almost unnoticeable.My verdict as of right now is that you really need an external recorder with 10bit for V-Log to really shine, but if you expose properly, you will be happy with V-Log color in 4k.I was very pleased with the skin tones that I get out of this camera! I am attaching a text document with a detailed exploration of exposure with V-Log, but the short version is this...White Clips at 75 Gray is 43 Black Clips at 11(Working on a video to demonstrate)Also I have attached my first version of an improved VLog-709 LUT, would love if anyone would test it out and tell me what they think, like/dislike to improve it. Exposure Research.pdf DM_VLOGto709_V1.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassius McGowan Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 So... first impressions.V-Log is pretty underwhelming to say the least. I don't know if anyone's experience was different than mine, but I'll lay it out there.V-Log in 1080p is unusable IMO. No matter how you do it, it's got a ton of noise and banding. A very undesirable image.V-Log in UHD/4k is good. While I can still see noise and banding, it is spread out better (likely due to the increase of pixels) to the point where it is almost unnoticeable.My verdict as of right now is that you really need an external recorder with 10bit for V-Log to really shine, but if you expose properly, you will be happy with V-Log color in 4k.I was very pleased with the skin tones that I get out of this camera! I am attaching a text document with a detailed exploration of exposure with V-Log, but the short version is this...White Clips at 75 Gray is 43 Black Clips at 11(Working on a video to demonstrate)Also I have attached my first version of an improved VLog-709 LUT, would love if anyone would test it out and tell me what they think, like/dislike to improve it.Exposure Research.pdfDM_VLOGto709_V1.zipDid you use your gray card to get the 18% gray at 42 IRE? Here's a Pic of the short vid I shot with v-log and film convert. Lightlightlight 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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