Bold Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Hello all,Tito has kindly allowed me to do some streamlining of the Lens-yclopedia database:I have templatized all the entries so key information is in the same location when you cycle through the pages.The template improves overall readability of the information.I've broken up Mounting Solutions into To Filter, To Taking Lens, and Lens SupportI’ve changed the Index to a spreadsheet that provides key stats for easy ‘comparison shopping’I’ve removed a couple lens entries that had no (or next to no) information.I've added a few bits of info on various lenses as I went through, particularly links to example footage.I’ve made significant updates to the B&H and B&L entries based on the info I gathered from EOSHD, as well as other locations. I'll keep adding to them as I embark on modding/using my lenses.Check out the updated Lens-yclopedia here. A great big huge thanks to Tito for allowing me to build on his great work. And to all the folks who have responded to my info-seeking posts. The information people have provided here has been invaluable for a newcomer like me.I was surprised at how much info I was able to find on the B&L, I cited sources in the Lens-yclopedia entry where I could - I would love to see all entries given source/reference links. I know people’s time is limited, but even just a morsel of info here & there would really help re-invigorate the database and make it more robust. A little crowd-sourcing can go a long way!I am considering periodically starting ‘Seeking Info About X Lens” threads to build up the other lens entries in the Lens-cyclopedia. If this is something you would like to see (or help me with), please chime in. If you want to send info my way (corrections, answers to red question marks, Lens-yclopedia functionality, etc), I will find time to update the database appropriately.Cheers,|. . | .| Gabriel Copoeru, Junior, dahlfors and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tito Ferradans Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 You rock, man! Bold 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rook Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 This is killer. Great reference. Thank you! Bold 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bold Posted September 21, 2015 Author Share Posted September 21, 2015 That's great man! Now if only there could be a listing for Mitchell lenses and having me know what all of them are...Do you mean Mitchell BNC mount?You could always start a thread "Seeking info about BNC mount anamorphic lenses" and combine that with a little internet research. I'd be happy to add anything you find to the database Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junior Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Very very nice work! Thanks a lot, it's a treasure for all of us anamorphic diggers! By the way, I have two questions if you don't mind:- did you remove Elmoscope II from database?- it looks like you think there's an optical difference between Kowa 8-z/16H & Kowa Bell & Howell. But they are both Prominar labelled. Is this "B&H quality control" a web legend or not? I mean Kowa is Kowa, japanese handmade excellence (still today). I really try to understand this price difference. For me they optically look same, don't they?Thanks! Bold 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tito Ferradans Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Very very nice work! Thanks a lot, it's a treasure for all of us anamorphic diggers!By the way, I have two questions if you don't mind:- did you remove Elmoscope II from database?- it looks like you think there's an optical difference between Kowa 8-z/16H & Kowa Bell & Howell. But they are both Prominar labelled. Is this "B&H quality control" a web legend or not? I mean Kowa is Kowa, japanese handmade excellence (still today). I really try to understand this price difference. For me they optically look same, don't they?Thanks!We decided to remove the Elmoscope II because there was almost no real information about it except for the picture.About the Kowa, the 8Z and the B&H are definitely not the same. The Bell & Howell isn't Prominar labeled and it has a very different body design, size and weight. Maybe the optics are the same, but the housing is very different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junior Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 I can provide you infos about Elmo II if you need.I agree housing of 8Z / B&H is different, and rear sizes too. But I guess that's all. According to Andrew Reid "The Bell and Howell anamorphic by Kowa, then, is a Kowa Prominar in a sleeker chassis." ( http://www.eoshd.com/2011/02/kowa-anamorphic-lens-review/ )That's an interesting triangle we have here: Elmo has same rear size as 8z/16h but looks like a B&H. B&H is lighter and wider than 8z/16h. 8z/16h is more common but cheaper with similar optical results (I guess but I'm not sure). Elmo and B&H are supposed to have more drastic glass tests than 8z/16h.What do you think about it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bold Posted September 21, 2015 Author Share Posted September 21, 2015 Cool, I hope you find the information you're looking for!This got me thinking I should clarify everyone's expectations so there's no confusion later on:In the future I *may* start more lens threads and add Lens-yclopedia info on anamorphics I own or are otherwise interested in. I am *not* offering to sift through other people's threads and collate the lens information for them.What I *am* offering is to add any lens info to the database provided 1) that lens info is sent to me and 2) that lens info is labeled according to the fields in the template, so I know where to place it:Lens NameManufacturerAlso Known AsAnamorphic StretchWeightLengthFront Element SizeFilter Thread SizeRear Element SizeRear Thread SizeYears ProducedFocus MethodMin. Focus DistanceTaking Lens Minimum Focal LengthFull FrameASP-CMicro Four ThirdsProsConsMounting SolutionsTo FilterTo Taking LensLens SupportObservations & Empirical DataGallery PhotosScreen Caps / Links to Footage CHeers,|. . | .| Junior and Tito Ferradans 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 I can provide you infos about Elmo II if you need.I agree housing of 8Z / B&H is different, and rear sizes too. But I guess that's all. According to Andrew Reid "The Bell and Howell anamorphic by Kowa, then, is a Kowa Prominar in a sleeker chassis." ( http://www.eoshd.com/2011/02/kowa-anamorphic-lens-review/ )That's an interesting triangle we have here: Elmo has same rear size as 8z/16h but looks like a B&H. B&H is lighter and wider than 8z/16h. 8z/16h is more common but cheaper with similar optical results (I guess but I'm not sure). Elmo and B&H are supposed to have more drastic glass tests than 8z/16h.What do you think about it?My understanding is they are all share the same optics from the sizes told. The difference might be coatings. Junior 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junior Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 My understanding is they are all share the same optics from the sizes told. The difference might be coatings.Good point! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timotheus Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Hi all, been reading along for a while... As a photographer wanting to learn more about video, I found this site and forum which introduced me to anamorphic video on DSLR. It's quite the niche, but a lot of fun and you have a great community here.I'd like to compliment Tito and Bold on this great piece of work. Already a brilliant resource, looks very pro now. I'll try to add info on my recently acquired and somewhat mysterious "Widescreen Supa-60 1.5x", as there is nothing on the web about it.Would it be useful to add a single file to the database with a list for lenses that are known by name only (like the aforementioned Elmoscope II)? Could give people that are interested in searching for anamorphics some leads... This and this list on the super8wiki have been helpful for my eBay quests. Bold, Junior and Tito Ferradans 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bold Posted September 22, 2015 Author Share Posted September 22, 2015 I'll try to add info on my recently acquired and somewhat mysterious "Widescreen Supa-60 1.5x", as there is nothing on the web about it.Excellent - never heard of it, would love to know more!Would it be useful to add a single file to the database with a list for lenses that are known by name only (like the aforementioned Elmoscope II)? Could give people that are interested in searching for anamorphics some leads... This and this list on the super8wiki have been helpful for my eBay quests.Perhaps down the road, though I don't have bandwidth for that at the moment. If anyone wants to compile such a list though, I'd be happy to publish it Timotheus and Tito Ferradans 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flynn Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 This is incredibly useful Bold. Cannot thank you enough. There's currently something called a Dyaliscope on ebay. Says it was made by H. Chretien and produces pink flares. Looks small. Might want to add it to the list. Bold 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cineman1 Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 The entry for Yashicascope 1.5x appears to contain the info for the Iscorama 54. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bold Posted September 23, 2015 Author Share Posted September 23, 2015 The entry for Yashicascope 1.5x appears to contain the info for the Iscorama 54. Yep, found out today the original entries for these were made a long long time ago using the template for the Isco 54. I'll clear out the data, and update it if new data comes in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tito Ferradans Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 We're now fancy at www.lens-yclopedia.com . Still the same thing until a good soul shows up with some web skills to adapt the information into an even prettier shape of a website. Julian, Bold and canonlyme 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer5 Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 This is wonderful....thanks guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Punk Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Nice work!Don't know if it is worth adding to Kowa B&H observation notes but since playing around with Kowa B&H and hearing other owners experience, it seems that the factory-set close focus distance from front optic to subject for the Kowa is actually 3 feet 8 inches (let's call it 4 feet to be conservative)This is due to the focus travel going beyond the 5 foot minimum marker on the lens being a common quirk of that particular lens from it's factory design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bold Posted October 28, 2015 Author Share Posted October 28, 2015 Added an ** to the min focus distance, with corresponding notation to the description for Kowa B&H. Hans Punk and Jim Chang 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tito Ferradans Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 added both SLR Magic Anamorphots. It has been a while! haha. Bold, these charts are awesome, man, so easy to fill in the data and images. Great work indeed! Bold 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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