Inazuma Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 What will you use it for mostly?Documentaries, commercials and short films. And ideally want to get into music videos eventually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronChicago Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Documentaries, commercials and short films. And ideally want to get into music videos eventually.For documentaries it's perfect. I'm still on the fence whether or not it's a good commercial, short, music video camera. The big pro's of the C100ii are Dual Pixel AF (great for situations where you're needing the shot nailed in real time, and not rehearsed), ease of use, extremely long battery life, great audio controls, and small but robust file sizes (for long recordings). The con's are that it's 8 bit 4:2:0 and mediocre DR for it's price. The image is solid, but not the best in that price range. I'd keep an eye out on the Ursa Mini when they release some footage. I think it'll be ideal for shorts, music videos, commercials. User 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User Posted October 5, 2015 Author Share Posted October 5, 2015 Hi Aaron, quick question. Does the dual pixel auto focus work well on non L lenses? Does it work well on all lenses? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inazuma Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 The con's are that it's 8 bit 4:2:0 and mediocre DR for it's price. The image is solid, but not the best in that price range. What's the DR mediocre in comparison to though? I have seen tests between it and various cameras like the BMPCC, A7S and FS7 - all of which have claimed more than the 12 stops that the c100 apparently has and none have seemed to top it really. Would absolutely love the Ursa Mini 4.6k but atm the feature set of the c100 suits me more, not to mention the cost of media. I'm not convinced it will drop in price very significantly for a few years either. I mean look at SSD's. They've been around for a while now, with the market growing exponentially but the cost is still falling at a slug's pace. User 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronChicago Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 What's the DR mediocre in comparison to though? I have seen tests between it and various cameras like the BMPCC, A7S and FS7 - all of which have claimed more than the 12 stops that the c100 apparently has and none have seemed to top it really. Would absolutely love the Ursa Mini 4.6k but atm the feature set of the c100 suits me more, not to mention the cost of media. I'm not convinced it will drop in price very significantly for a few years either. I mean look at SSD's. They've been around for a while now, with the market growing exponentially but the cost is still falling at a slug's pace. I'd say it's in the GH4/BMCC range of DR, maybe showing more in the shadows and less in the highlights. Yeah CFast 2.0 cards are crazy right now. Hi Aaron, quick question. Does the dual pixel auto focus work well on non L lenses? Does it work well on all lenses? Thanks.It works on any of the Canon lenses as far as I know. I use it with the 17-55 which isn't L. User 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kubrickian Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 The DPAF works with the new sigma art lenses as well, but you have to make sure their firmware is updated. It works a little slower though than on canon glass. User 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User Posted October 10, 2015 Author Share Posted October 10, 2015 I doubt it but, can the C100 Mkii 3.5mm mini jack supply phantom power to a mic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docmoore Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 I doubt it but, can the C100 Mkii 3.5mm mini jack supply phantom power to a mic?No but I use this with a xlr to 3.5 mini jack cable ... dead quiet but runs through 9 volt batteries if you do nothave an external power supply.http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/403002-REG/Denecke_PS_1A_PS_1A_Portable_Single.html They also make a dual version.http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/406897-REG/Denecke_PS_2_PS_2_Portable_Dual.html/prm/alsVwDtlBob User 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User Posted October 10, 2015 Author Share Posted October 10, 2015 Nice one Bob. 128 bucks to get my Sennheiser 416 running. Sometimes I think that I should have gone with the ME66.Also, I sometimes find the 416 a little too directional, especially if I don't frame the subject so that the mic nails them. Hypercardioid could be my next word of the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docmoore Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Sound either makes video or kills it . $128 add to a $6K cam seems like a bargain ...I have a Rode NTG 3 and an AKG 414XLS both driven well with the Device. 414 XL has 5 patterns easily selected. Bob User and webrunner5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User Posted October 10, 2015 Author Share Posted October 10, 2015 Thanks again Bob. Nice mics.I hear you on the bargain aspect except I'm putting a whole kit together, in Europe and getting killed on the exchange rate in the currency I'm using.Do you have a a photo of your camera with your set up? Would be good to see how you've mounted things without the handle. I want to lose it as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docmoore Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Here ... CD Odyssey 7Q+ on Noga arm ... tripod mounted ... WC top plate arm and Quick release ... Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User Posted October 10, 2015 Author Share Posted October 10, 2015 Nice set up. Serious head you got there. I'm moving towards the FSB 8. Even with the exchange rate, it's a good deal in Germany. I have the same Gitzo Legs.I'm curious, do you use the WC top plate and arm because the Canon one is shite? Or you want better stealth? What I'd like is less height and to include a mic I would want to get a top plate and then mount a shock mount mic holder to the side of it over top of the hand grip like seen here: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docmoore Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Notice the hole in the handle ... allows a 15mm rod to add any thing you want off the side ... I recently added the Zacuto mount and a Pro EVF at a discount ... but your rig should mount easily. Canon's top plate is OK ...the WC adds all sortsof mounting options and it is rigid rigid rigid... did I say rigid. I had a FSB 6 ... worked well but this is a different level ... so the FSB 8 should be perfect for this light of a camera and rig.I went from a FSB 6 to a Sachtler Ace M to this ... and am still learning how to pan without distortion. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User Posted October 11, 2015 Author Share Posted October 11, 2015 Got it. Than you.I hear you on panning, there is a formula that equals success. Can't remember it exactly... 30% of something I can't really remember anymore.Actually, I was thinking of going with the the FSB 6 because it's several hundred euro cheaper and half a pound lighter as well. Also I'm not sure that I'll really build a rig much over 13.5 pounds for what I'm doing. Do you really think that the FSB 8 will somehow be a better match for the C100 Mkii with little or no extras?On a the doc side of things, met these directors last year, solid work:Alrighty lights out here... more to follow I'm sure. Thanks again for your insights Bob... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docmoore Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 The FSB 6 and 8 are close ... better to err on the heavy side for the mount ... a bit more resistance may yield a bit less shaky vid ... at least at my age that seems to work....Yes panning I tend to rush things ... or so my Cello instructor contends....Bob User 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Cryer Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 I plumped for the C100 MK2 a few months back. Love it. It is so easy to use and the image really does look nice. Yeah, it's not 4K but at this time and the clients I work for (weddings, events, conferences and web videos for businesses) who cares. I replaced my GH4 with it, no regrets at all. I can just pick up this camera and away you go, long battery life and due to the codec sizes a 64GB card can last me all day at a wedding.Lens wise, I have the Sigma 18-35mm (great lens), Sigma 24-105 and the Canon EF-S 18-135. I do find the Canon lens slightly softer but it works a treat with the Dual AF system and Face autodetect.I generally shoot in Wide DR, would anyone have any good picture profiles they'd recommend. For things like weddings, I prefer as near as possible out of the camera.I've still to actually try C-LOG properly! Kubrickian 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inazuma Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 I plumped for the C100 MK2 a few months back. Love it. It is so easy to use and the image really does look nice. Yeah, it's not 4K but at this time and the clients I work for (weddings, events, conferences and web videos for businesses) who cares. I replaced my GH4 with it, no regrets at all. I can just pick up this camera and away you go, long battery life and due to the codec sizes a 64GB card can last me all day at a wedding.Lens wise, I have the Sigma 18-35mm (great lens), Sigma 24-105 and the Canon EF-S 18-135. I do find the Canon lens slightly softer but it works a treat with the Dual AF system and Face autodetect.I generally shoot in Wide DR, would anyone have any good picture profiles they'd recommend. For things like weddings, I prefer as near as possible out of the camera.I've still to actually try C-LOG properly!How does the dual AF work with the sigma lenses? Is it smooth and quiet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Cryer Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 How does the dual AF work with the sigma lenses? Is it smooth and quiet?It works well with the 24-105, but I'm struggling to get it working with the 18-35 correctly. I have updted the firmware on the lenses and it seems to work ok with the continous focus option, but not well with the one shot focus option. User 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User Posted October 11, 2015 Author Share Posted October 11, 2015 It works well with the 24-105, but I'm struggling to get it working with the 18-35 correctly. I have updted the firmware on the lenses and it seems to work ok with the continous focus option, but not well with the one shot focus option.Hi Paul, good to hear from you. Have you been able to try another version of the same lens?I myself can't exactly see a use for continuous right now but really appreciate one shot auto focus.Can anyone else weigh in here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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