andy lee Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Dear Panasonic I would like a Full Frame GH2 please !! one day soon!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonjak2 Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 [quote name='EOSHD' timestamp='1342880107' post='14242'] Digital HAS beaten film. I am pretty sure 5K or Super Hi Vision would look more detailed than the best S35mm film scan on IMAX. Would you notice even more resolution from 65mm on IMAX? I haven't yet. For sure digital has better sensitivity to light with less noise. With the Sony F65 it also has a wider colour gamut and better dynamic range. Case closed! [/quote] What? Are you kidding me? Do you actually shoot film, have you actually looked at the same shot on 35mm next to an F65 or Alexa or are you just talking from a spec sheet? Digital is more detailed? Who cares! It also looks plastic, sterile and lifeless. What is the crazy obsession with resolution as if that is what actually counts? Film wins by miles when it comes to the actual aesthetic look. If you're talking specs, sure digital wins, but who cares about specs! I repeat, what digital film looks as good as the best 35mm shot film? To take something modern as an example, what digital film looks as good as The Tree Of Life, or There Will Be Blood? Please tell me, i'm still waiting to see something convincing. Sure Digital can look great for some stories, but Apocalypse Now, Blade Runner, Assasination of Jesse James? No way, not yet. I'm all for digital, but arguing that it beats film because color gamut this and resolution that is ridiculous. You don't judge it by looking at a piece of paper or internet page, you judge it by actually looking at the two side by side on a cinema screen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted July 21, 2012 Administrators Share Posted July 21, 2012 I agree digital needs roughing up. Some don't agree. This is all subjective. I agree with you that digital needs careful handling if it is not to look too clinical and better technical capabilities do not always improve the image. 24p is less technically capable than 60p but it looks more cinematic. However putting the life into a shoot is YOUR responsibility isn't it? The lens has a lot to do with it as well. The reason so many modern films look lifeless and plastic is not because they were shot on digital. It is because of the decisions people are making in post and when shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy lee Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 'The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo' - Jeff Cronenwerth on a Red One/ Red Epic This film is simply stunning - beautifuly Cinematography at its best In the right hands Digital can tell a story just as well as film. its all totally subjective - I've shot on film for many years and on digital both are good ...I now prefer Digital its also a time thing ....digital is new so there are not as many stunning digital films to watch as its a new medium! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted July 21, 2012 Administrators Share Posted July 21, 2012 I actually think for all Nolan's insistence on shooting Batman on film it looks like it was actually shot on digital. Very clean. Will be interesting to see what job Roger Deakins does on Skyfall with the Alexa Studio and anamorphic. If anything is designed to mimic the overall aesthetic of film and not just the specs side, it is that and it is him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy lee Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 I really Like 'Dragon Tattoo' as it has a very YELLOW AND BLACK colour palate throughout the film look at how the shots are lit, as opposed to TEAL AND AMBER that is the stock colour palate of most Hollywood films these days. It is hard looking for something that is not Teal and Amber these days!! I like it and shoot Teal and Amber alot especially these past 2 years , but it does drive me mad how it is used sooooo much ! TEAL AND AMBER MADNESS ! see this link. [url="http://theabyssgazes.blogspot.co.uk/2010/03/teal-and-orange-hollywood-please-stop.html"]http://theabyssgazes.blogspot.co.uk/2010/03/teal-and-orange-hollywood-please-stop.html[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted July 21, 2012 Administrators Share Posted July 21, 2012 [img]http://www.eoshd.com/comments/uploads/inline/1/500ad15a53a2c_in495munchbstscream1893.jpg[/img] Germy1979 and andy lee 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy lee Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Frame Grab from a pop video I shot ....Teal And Amber madness ! Clients want it so I shoot it! . [img]http://www.eoshd.com/comments/uploads/inline/19952/500ad11c6195c_throwawaydancingextrassection3.jpg[/img] 'Amber' gels on the Main subject , 'Teal' Gels on the background subjects this was lit with 'Redheads' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy lee Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Its all over TV now too , you can't watch a BBC Drama now without seeing it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Germy1979 Posted July 21, 2012 Author Share Posted July 21, 2012 Somewhere in this pile is a Gh2. Don't ask me why I bought all of this... lol. [quote name='EOSHD' timestamp='1342886237' post='14259'] [img]../../uploads/inline/1/500ad15a53a2c_in495munchbstscream1893.jpg[/img] [/quote] lol... Looks like Van Gogh going, "Teal and Amber Noooooooooooo!" (like Mr. Bill.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Germy1979 Posted July 21, 2012 Author Share Posted July 21, 2012 Specifically, all of this sh-t just looks cool... lol. Somewhere in there is a Gh2. [attachment=267:photo.JPG] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Germy1979 Posted July 21, 2012 Author Share Posted July 21, 2012 Specifically, all of this sh-t just looks cool... lol. Somewhere in there is a Gh2. [attachment=267:photo.JPG] andy lee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy lee Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 looks cool , I use a similar set up with the GH2, but with the TECNOIR CINEMA RIG [img]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e307/blackmore1/tecnoir-rig-panasonic-gh2-b.jpg[/img] [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tecnoir-DSLR-support-rig-15mm-rods-for-Canon-Panasonic-Nikon-Red-Epic-Scarlet-/180931854518?pt=UK_Tripods_Heads_Stablisers&hash=item2a206100b6"]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tecnoir-DSLR-support-rig-15mm-rods-for-Canon-Panasonic-Nikon-Red-Epic-Scarlet-/180931854518?pt=UK_Tripods_Heads_Stablisers&hash=item2a206100b6[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Germy1979 Posted July 21, 2012 Author Share Posted July 21, 2012 Haha! You > me. Fail. "That's real nice son! This here's what I carry!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy lee Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Yeah your rig looks cool , we have the same Monitor and Matte Box So what follow focus are you using ? as I'm still reading up on which ones work best? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinlan Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 I think it's good that Nolan is still not using digital. Even if digital looks amazing and there's no mentionable difference anymore, I think there some nuances in the look that gives film "more soul". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted July 21, 2012 Administrators Share Posted July 21, 2012 There are some nuances yes, I agree. But really no camera has a soul if the person behind it is soulless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy lee Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 just out today ! spotted this New Superman Trailer - Produced by Christoper Nolan - Batman Trilogy Directed by Zakk Snyder - 300, Watchmen and Sucker Punch (I loved the visuals in Sucker Punch - but not the script!) looks good - Imax, 35mm or Digital I wonder what It was shot on?? anyone any idea ??? [url="http://uk.movies.yahoo.com/blogs/movie-editors/superman-man-steel-trailer-premiere-170833326.html"]http://uk.movies.yahoo.com/blogs/movie-editors/superman-man-steel-trailer-premiere-170833326.html[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy lee Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 [url="http://collider.com/superman-man-of-steel-3d/178384/"]http://collider.com/...teel-3d/178384/[/url] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1u1vDfTtA-M&feature=related[/media] just found this look carefully and you can see the film mag on the back of the camera at 2:16 (Panavision XL) so looks like its shot on 35mm film !! ...they still love 35mm in Hollywood ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted July 21, 2012 Administrators Share Posted July 21, 2012 I think the way film is processed and projected in this day and age makes it look more like digital anyway. I don't think it even has much of a classic look to it any more on most film shot big budget features I've seen, it is not much in evidence. Nolan is a good director, but a little over hyped. Better is Paul Thomas Anderson. Never seen someone better at getting the most out of talent that he manages to do. His characters light up the screen... No, they set it alight completely. Burn baby burn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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